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Old 08-27-2011, 08:30 PM   #1
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Can anyone help me id this gun?





I have a bunch of other pictures of the markings n stuff at http://www.mute8s.com/bp but didnt have the time to post them all here.

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Old 08-27-2011, 09:52 PM   #2
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Looks like something cobbled together in Afghanistan.

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Looks like something cobbled together in Afghanistan.
Actually the border territories of Pakistan, by the Pathans.

The barrel is ungodly short for a black powder arm. There's no lock plate on the left side. The Greek-looking characters appear as though they were inscribed by someone who didn't know or use the Roman, Greek or Cyrillic alphabet but thought they could fake the look of them. Overall it's startlingly crude in form, execution and ornamentation. The lack of proof marks underscores the likelihood of its being a home brew from Darra Adam Khel.

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Some parts like the use of escutcheons instead of a side plate and the ramrod retainer are military designs but this "thing" was never military.

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yeah this is a strange one. I inherited it when my Dad passed away and I didn't even know he had it otherwise I would have asked him about it. Hopefully someone will come along who can id it. thanks for the replies so far.

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There is no identifying it. It's a fabrication unto itself. A mishmash of parts handmade and original thrown together in a third world country.

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There is no identifying it. It's a fabrication unto itself. A mishmash of parts handmade and original thrown together in a third world country.
Yeah thats what I was afraid of. On a side note while I am pretty much guessing it doesn't do you think this has any value at all? (not that I would want to sell it. I am just assessing my collection)
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Sorry but no real value. It would be an interesting wall hanger or tomato stake.

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Looks like a hacked up British Enfield.....or a bastardized back alley made version of one.

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Looks like a hacked up British Enfield.....or a bastardized back alley made version of one.
Thats interesting. My father was a big fan of the british Lee Enfield rifles. He had 5 or 6 at least. Thanks for the note.
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