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randy420 09-01-2013 09:22 PM

minimum powder charge for a modern in-line
 
I am saving up for a muzzleloader. I want to be able to deer hunt with it but I am kinda recoil sensitive. What would the minimum powder charge be I could use and be able to kill a deer at no more than maybe 125 yards? I don't plan on using a slug heavier than 300 grains max.

BillM 09-01-2013 09:39 PM

Caliber? You after those little dog sized Florida deer or Montana mule deer?

The somewhat generally accepted rule of thumb for deer is 1000 ft lbs of energy.
That translates to a 300 gr slug at 1225 fps.

randy420 09-01-2013 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BillM (Post 1354223)
Caliber? You after those little dog sized Florida deer or Montana mule deer?

The somewhat generally accepted rule of thumb for deer is 1000 ft lbs of energy.
That translates to a 300 gr slug at 1225 fps.

I live in and hunt in Noble county, indiana. The deer here range from 90-200 pounds. The bucks here range from the average button buck to the generic TV buck (8 point). There are also a couple of monster bucks that I have seen on the 109 acres I hunt on. The fields are small enough that a 3-9x scope is plenty. Basically you can cover an entire field with one of the new 200 yard shotgun slugs.

randy420 09-01-2013 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillM (Post 1354223)
Caliber? You after those little dog sized Florida deer or Montana mule deer?

The somewhat generally accepted rule of thumb for deer is 1000 ft lbs of energy.
That translates to a 300 gr slug at 1225 fps.

50 caliber.

mountainman13 09-01-2013 10:16 PM

Absolute minimum charge would be 50 grains. Optimal will probably be in the 70 grain area.
You'll need to see what your gun likes. Long range with black powder is not as easy as just loading 100 grains and pulling the trigger.
Also depends on what you intend to use for ammo.

randy420 09-01-2013 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mountainman13 (Post 1354264)
Absolute minimum charge would be 50 grains. Optimal will probably be in the 70 grain area.
You'll need to see what your gun likes. Long range with black powder is not as easy as just loading 100 grains and pulling the trigger.
Also depends on what you intend to use for ammo.

I plan to use powerbelts. I also plan on getting a better recoil pad.

mountainman13 09-01-2013 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by randy420 (Post 1354280)

I plan to use powerbelts. I also plan on getting a better recoil pad.

Gun should be pretty damn accurate then. It won't hero to touchy to the amount of powder you use.
You shouldn't ever need more than 90 grains Max.
If your in the 70 grain area recoil won't be bad.

unioncreek 09-02-2013 01:19 AM

I hunt with a .54 flintlock in WA and use a 230 grain roundball. I use 90 grains of FFg and limit my range to 100 yards. You'll need to pick a bullet and they shoot different loads of powder to find out what you can handle and what the rifle likes best.

Bob

Shade 09-02-2013 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by randy420 (Post 1354255)
I live in and hunt in Noble county, indiana. The deer here range from 90-200 pounds. The bucks here range from the average button buck to the generic TV buck (8 point). There are also a couple of monster bucks that I have seen on the 109 acres I hunt on. The fields are small enough that a 3-9x scope is plenty. Basically you can cover an entire field with one of the new 200 yard shotgun slugs.

70-75 minimum for a good kill. I shoot ~110 but it does kick.

If you are recoil sensitive, go with the lightest bullet you can find.

Bullet mass has the greatest contribution to felt recoil without changing guns.

303tom 09-02-2013 03:30 AM

Here is what I use with 90 grs. of powder, pretty easy on the shoulder..........
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/278052/hornady-muzzleloading-bullets-50-caliber-sabot-with-45-caliber-250-grain-low-drag-super-shock-tip-sst-box-of-20


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