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 11-02-2009, 11:40 PM | #1 | Supporting Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 4,442 |  Iver Johnson 12ga Black Powder
I just picked up an Iver Johnson single shot, black powder 12ga. and have some questions for the experts.
1. Are these safe to fire with current 12ga. shells? If not where can I find shells for it? Do I have to handload? If so, where can I find the stuff to do so?
2. How do you tell the age of the gun?
3. I picked it up for $69. Is that a fair price? I am just curious as to market value. It is worth it to me simply because I like the cool brass buttplate with the word "Champion" written in scriptive lettering.
Any info would be appreciated. Thanks. | 
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| 11-03-2009, 04:05 AM | #2 | Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Third bunker on the right, Central Virginia Posts: 8,373 Liked 4 Times on 4 Posts
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Everything depends on condition. My crystal ball is in the shop again for a tuneup, so cannot tell what sort of condition your gun is in, or its value. Pix and a list of ALL markings would help.
BTW, what makes you say yours is a black powder shotgun? markings? IF yours is truly a "made for BP' then, NO- modern smokeless ammo could be VERY dangerous to fire. __________________
What we have heah is.... failure to communicate. | |
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| 11-03-2009, 05:02 PM | #3 | Supporting Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 4,442 |
I should have included pics but didn't have time when I posted this.
The reason that I think it is a black powder shotgun is that the patent dates on it are '01 and '02. What I found on the interwebz led me to believe that it would be a black powder shotgun.
I appreciate the help and will post pics tonight if I am able. | |
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| 11-04-2009, 12:09 AM | #4 | Supporting Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 4,442 |
Here are the pictures of my latest.
The side of the shotgun reads:
IVER JOHNSON"S
ARMS & CYCLE WORK
FITCHBURG, MASS.U.S.A.
The top of the barrel reads:
CHAMPION PATD.APR.2'01.APR.15'02 PAT PENDING
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| 11-04-2009, 12:11 AM | #5 | Supporting Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 4,442 |
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| 11-04-2009, 12:14 AM | #6 | Supporting Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 4,442 |
The buttplate is brass.
In addition to the questions I have asked already. I have one more.
Should I take 0000 steel wool to the nickel? Brasso to the buttplate? Re-finsh the walnut? | |
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| 11-05-2009, 07:47 PM | #7 | Supporting Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 4,442 |
Also, I found this link for black powder shotgun shells. Are they a reliable source or are there better sources?
Powder Inc. (Ammunition Order Form) | |
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| 11-05-2009, 08:25 PM | #8 | Supporting Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Katy, Texas Posts: 1,376 |
Don't know about the BP shotgunshells, but I have made several 5 lb. orders for Black Powder from these folks. I have had no problems, so I'd recommend them. __________________
TXnorton | |
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| 11-06-2009, 12:10 AM | #9 | Supporting Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 4,442 |
Will doing things like taking 0000 steel wool to the metal, Brasso to the buttplate and refinishing the stock negatively affect the value? | |
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| 11-09-2009, 12:39 AM | #10 | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Heidelberg, MS Posts: 1,133 |
The Champions will handle smokeless shells but the chamber length is 2 1/2 inches. | |
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