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KAB 01-23-2012 03:43 PM

I need sage experienced advice on BP substitutes
 
I don't have much experience fireing cap and ball revolvers with Pyrodreck or Tripple 777 , so let that part be known . Most of my experience is with real Holy Black Powder , like 98% of my entire life of shooting these revolvers .
Question is : how long will an "unopened" container of Pyrodreck last , and Tripple 777 last ?
Question #2 : how long will a open container last if the seal has been broke but cap is tight on the bottle ?

I have a bottle of each of the mentioned substitutes that are at least 10 plus years old and the seal has been broke on each . Are they any good ? Just shoot them and try it isn't the answer I am looking for , I need a real experience responce here , and thanks you very much if you can answer these questions .

Now go outside and play would ya ! :D I'm gonna :p

KAB 01-25-2012 01:33 AM

What . no brilliant people here on BP Subs ? Thats surprises me , and I still haven't figured out the answer no matter where I look ?

towboater 01-25-2012 02:07 AM

Never used it before. I've only used pyrodex pellets, and BP.

c3shooter 01-25-2012 02:52 AM

Too many variables for a simple answer. Pryro has been in a couple of different packages, temp/ humidity where stored, etc. IN GENERAL- Trip 7 is PURPORTED to have a longer shelf life than Pyro- how MUCH longer, don't know.

KAB 01-25-2012 03:10 AM

Thanks Yall
 
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Originally Posted by c3shooter (Post 688550)
Too many variables for a simple answer. Pryro has been in a couple of different packages, temp/ humidity where stored, etc. IN GENERAL- Trip 7 is PURPORTED to have a longer shelf life than Pyro- how MUCH longer, don't know.

Thanks , and some of my inquiry is because if ever hoarding BP Substitutes for Armageddon , would it be pointless to do so ? If it goes bad before too long and there are still canabals trying to eat you , then the Subs wouldn't be worth much except for flavoring on said Zombies right .

Durangokid 01-25-2012 03:39 AM

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I use Triple 7 in my Perc. revolvers. Tresco Nipples for Subs and Remington Caps. Never had an issue with storage. T 7 delivers 15 % more velocity per volume over my Chrono. It is easy to clean up and works with conicals or round balls. Caution, make sure it is compressed or accuracy will suffer. As with any Perc. hand gun remove and lube nipples with Anti-Sieze every few months. I load for Hunting and Field use so I use powerful loads only. This was fired at 25 yds. .457 RB 147 grs 10 to 1 Alloy 1,200 FPS.

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Durangokid 01-25-2012 03:42 AM

This is a Rogers & Spencer Target Mdl. Euroarms .457 Caliber. These are strong accurate handguns. They can equal my favorite ROAs.

towboater 01-25-2012 04:00 AM

Dang, thats putting some speed on em. How much triple 7 would be a standard load? Say 30grain of fff

Durangokid 01-25-2012 04:26 AM

30 Grs. of 3 F T 7 will produce 950 FPS with a RB and very accurate in my ROA. The ROA will give 1,000 FPS with the Lee .456 220 gr. conical with 35 grs. of T 7. I load the Lyman .452 255 grs Kieth bullet over 35 Grs. of T 7 in the ROA for 800 Fps. Note I am using a Ruger Old Army. The Rogers & Spencer will handle the heavy RB loads. Colt and Remington copies should be loaded with less powder. No brass framed guns what so ever with the T 7 Powder.:eek:

KAB 01-25-2012 05:28 AM

Rogers and Spencer
 
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Originally Posted by Durangokid (Post 688600)
This is a Rogers & Spencer Target Mdl. Euroarms .457 Caliber. These are strong accurate handguns. They can equal my favorite ROAs.

The Rogers and Spencer are definately nice , strong , accurate . I like mine quite well too .
Do you have any long term storage experience or do you shoot your powder up quick ?

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