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bilbert 03-26-2011 01:39 AM

I need help!!
 
A friend gave me a black powder pistol that has 1 or 2 of the chambers that are loaded and the gun is starting to rust. How can I clean out the powder without firing the gun? The gun will also not advance the cylinder so I can only see the 1 chamber that has a live round in it. I would really like some help with this before I blow up my hand trying to fix it.

danf_fl 03-26-2011 01:43 AM

Different things to try.

I would first put some oil in the nipple area in an attempt to neutralize the powder.

Some people have had luck with compressed air.
Some have replaced the nipple with a grease insert and pumped grease through.

either way, keep it pointed in a safe direction.

freefall 03-26-2011 02:50 AM

The black powder loonies I know generally use a thing called a worm, kind of a cross between a screw and a corkscrew from what I saw. They screw it into the ball and pull it out. By main strength the time I saw it, four guys latched onto a ramrod and yarded it out. Looked risky as heck. If I was doing it I'd figure a way to do it with a piece of all-thread, use a big washer and screw it out with a wrench. My opinion fwiw.

c3shooter 03-26-2011 02:59 AM

First, find a product called KROIL. It is the Rolls Royce of penetrating oils. There is also a spray version called Aero Kroil. Freely coat metal parts (avoid the wood) let soak for a day. Bet you can take the revolver down now. Use a nipple wrench, back out the nipples. Insert a Zerk grease fitting, use grease gun, push bullet out. Repeat for any loaded charge. There IS an unloader used for rifles that uses a CO2 cartridge to push bullet out, don't know if it can reach the shrouded nipples on a revolver. I have used a screw bullet puller on rifles (worm is a different tool- it recovers patches that are in the bore) never tried on revolver.

bilbert 03-27-2011 05:11 AM

I would like to thank you all that responded to my thread. I took a syringe and injected oil into the gun powder threw the nipple (the needle I had was small enough the fit threw the little hole leading into the cylinder) and also injected oil all around the ball. I then used a drywall screw and screwed it into the lead and just pulled it out. I must also say that I was very nervous the entire time and it took me forever to get the screw into the ball. i did not want to go to fast.

danf_fl 03-27-2011 09:36 AM

Good job. One can never be careful enough around firearms.

orangello 03-28-2011 06:59 PM

Soooooooo, any pics of your new revolver? :)

USNWO 04-03-2011 03:46 AM

Obviously this has been resolved, but one trick I use when I'm out to sea and I need to show some greens how to safely disarm an older firearm such like that, I grab some vegetable oil from the galley and a bowl/pot/ect big enough to hold the gun. Place the firearm in the bowl, then cover with vegetable oil. Give it time to soak. The oil wets the powder. Navy rule number 1: wet powder is useless.


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