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Old 12-21-2014, 09:55 PM   #1
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I'm new to the forum and was looking for help in identifying the muskets or rifle in the attached pics. They are from my Dad's collection and was wondering if they are of value or just wall hangers. I know my way around shotguns but am at a loss about muskets...especially these which are likely 100+ years old.

Thanks in advance or any info you can provide. I can provide more detailed pics if needed.

Dean62



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Old 12-21-2014, 10:58 PM   #2
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Dean- welcome to the forum- glad you found us. When you get a minute, stop by the Introductions thread and say howdy.

The folks here are going to need closeup photos, showing any markings, but I expect some of the folks heavily into muzzleloaders can help on most of those.



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Pictures need to be better. The only one I might be sure of is the lever action rifle looks like it is a 45-70. Condition doesn't look too good, though. No idea on value. good luck

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The only one I might be sure of is the lever action rifle looks like it is a 45-70.
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That bottom one appears to be a pot metal copy of an 1866 Winchester. Better pictures and complete description of markings would good a long way.

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The bottom one may be a BB gun. If not, then it's a cast pot metal
replica--and a rather poorly done one.

I'm going to GUESS that the two with flat buttplates are shotguns. They look pretty
thin-walled at the muzzle, and I can't see a blur that might be a rear sight.

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The bottom one looks like a Winchester 1866 gray to me !...............Need some close-ups to be sure.........Welcome to the forum Dean62, nice collection there !...................

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Thanks to everyone for the replies.
I was able to find a marking on only one of them....it is the one with the octagon barrel and was made by Hollis and Sheath. I attached a pic of the wording. The others are shotguns but I can't find any markings.
Does anyone know if the Hollis and Sheath is worth anything? The condition isn't the best

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Hollis & Sheath was a partnership of John Hollis and Isaac Brentnall Sheath formed in Birmingham, England in 1844. Their 12 gauge hammer guns were made between 1849-1861. All guns from that period were black powder guns- and shotguns would have been "twist" or Damascus steel.

I would not chance firing any gun from that time until inspected by a TRUSTED gunsmith. Please do not "clean up" any of the guns beyond cleaning with light oil and a soft cloth.

Simply being old does NOT mean highly valuable- or I'd be worth a fortune. With an antique firearm, value is driven heavily by condition. Bluntly, the condition of that gun would be fair.



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