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Old 01-27-2014, 02:15 AM   #21
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I have a little black powder, but I like Pyrodex P. (FFFG) I use it in all my guns 45 and 50 cal , side hammer or inline.I do not like R/S.

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That's your opinion and you're certainly welcome to it. I've been using it for years with no problems. It works in my Hawken, shotguns, .58 Enfield and revolvers. I've used it in cartridges also. The only thing that doesn't like it is my Sharp's paper cutter. Ignition isn't instantaneous with it like it is with the rest of my guns because of the two 90 degree angles in the ignition channel. Do I like black better? Yes I do but buying in bulk online isn't usually an option for me and it can't be had locally.
I agree Hawg, I like pyrodex "P" (FFFG equiv.) It is a lot faster ignition than the R/S... and use it in anything up to and including .50 cal.(Kentucky cap, Hawkins, or CVA., Plains.) Even my inline but never in anything larger than .50. I have some Black powder but it is harder to get here right now.
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"Triple 7 unlike BP should not be heavily compressed."

I'm not so sure of that. Here is what their site states:

Loading cartridges:
"Loading density should be 100% with light compression not to exceed .100". Testing has shown that Triple Seven will perform best when the bullet just touches the powder."

Loading percussion/flintlocks:
"Seat the projectile firmly against the powder."

I've emailed Hodgdon's several times asking for clarification on what exactly "firmly" means, as well as the need to reduce the powder charge by 15% for safety, which is not what their info states as it says to do so to duplicate a BP load, but they've not responded.

I've read of a few guys who have chronographed their heavily compressed stout loads and they got very good results with maybe a 50 fps variance.

I, myself, have compressed it as much as possible and get similar groups as when I use Olde Eynsford or Pyrodex powder as well. But then the Ruger just seems to do well with any powder or projectile I feed it.

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Pyrodex is sh!t and in my area it is two to three times the cost of black powder. As far as I am concerned there is No substitute.

better judged by twelve than carried by six.
Ialway shoot Pyrodex "P" FFFG equiv. and never had a problem. Just wish Walmart sold the P as well as RS.
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Pyrodex is sh!t and in my area it is two to three times the cost of black powder. As far as I am concerned there is No substitute.

better judged by twelve than carried by six.
I have some pyodex gun powder i could sell you
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No doubt about it, finding real black powder these days can be difficult for most of us.

There is one little gun shop a couple states over, near my childhood home, that sells Goex for about $19 a (1 lb) can. Ended up being about $21 per can after tax.

Other than that, the last Bass Pro shop I was at wanted $25 per can, ended up being about $29 after tax.

Needless to say, I stock up at the little gun shop whenever I can. Bass Pro must make alot on Goex... I would order Goex in bulk online from Powder Inc., but I really wouldn't feel comfortable with 25 lbs of black powder sitting in my studio apartment! I don't think I'd make it out if there was a fire or something!

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We have about seven centuries experience with black gunpowder (about 75% potassium nitrate, balance sulfur and charcoal).

Exactly why would anyone want to use a highly corrosive powder in their muzzle loader? The stuff uses potassium perchlorate as the source of oxygen. For the non-chemists, that makes it like using old-fashioned corrosive ammunition in your nice new AR-whatever.

If you live in Arizona you'll probably not notice a problem. Anywhere with some humidity in the air & your fine percussion piece will rust (with a flintlock there is less problem, it simply will not go off). If you do use pyrodex then be sure to clean well with cold water, at least before you use all the fancy made-up or commercial powder cleaners.

And don't shoot it indoors. The smoke it does make is not so healthy.

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I use only Holey Black in my BP firearms and revolvers that includes my 1875 Remington clone cartridge revolvers.
as already stated dispite popular belief many BP substitutes are more corrosive than BP.
To each their own.
The Ancient Substance Endures All-Lesser Propellants Shall Fizzle
I also make my own BP that is as good as the Olde Eynsford that I also use.
Here is a little something Just For Fun for those dyed in the wool pards who use only BP

File Type: pdf THE BLACK COVENANT & Cert.pdf (86.0 KB, 7 views)
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