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Old 12-05-2010, 10:57 PM   #11
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right now im more worried about maintenance and products for such rather than specifics about bullets. i dont want my rifle to blow up or rust to pieces cuz im using the wrong thing or not doing something right. so input in that is really what im looking for.

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I dunno that much about them but basics are same.

Forgot it will shoot lead conicals as well or better than sabots

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I dunno that much about them but basics are same.

Forgot it will shoot lead conicals as well or better than sabots
cool thats what ill be using once i get the hang of it. i like the idea of making my own more than buying them.
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Jon, I only know of 2 ways to blow up a black powder rifle.

First, if you use anything but BLACK POWDER- or a legit black powder substitute, such as Pyrodex, you CAN damage your rifle, self, innocent bystanders, etc. That means no modern smokeless powder, such as Green Dot, Unique, Bullseye, IMR etc.

Second, if you fire the rifle with a bullet NOT firmly against the powder charge. How would that happen? Black powder generates fouling when you shoot it. You should have stopped to swab out the bore, but figured you could get ONE more shot in- and the bullet is halfway down the barrel and stuck. Go find a sewing needle and some ink, tattoo this on your hand-
NEVER TRY TO SHOOT A BULLET THAT IS NOT FULLY LOADED.

Read the book. for clean up, hot water and Dawn dish detergent are your friends. After scrubbing bore, flush with HOT water, let dry, and you can LIGHTLY lube bore. CLP or Remoil is OK (just a patch dampened with oil, wipe) I use Bore Butter.

As Hawg said, there are 3 kinds of muzzle loading shooters- those that HAVE forgot to load powder, those that WILL forget the powder, and those that lie about it.

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thanks thats what im looking for. going off half knowledge or less is a good way to end up in the er. i got lots of clp and i like the stuff good to hear i can use it.

any tips on carrying primers and powder safely in the field?? whats a good powder measure?? is it like loading metallic cartridge starting low and working up??

im going to get the lyman bp book.

dont mean to be a pest but im totally new to this.

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Leave caps in their container they came in. There ARE quick load tubes you measure powder into, cap- when time touse, uncap, pour. NEVER pour directly from a powder can or powder horn into the barrel. One spark, and the grenade you are holding goes off. You can get an inexpensive adjustable powder measure. Read the book on your rifle for suggested loads. Best load rarely hottest load. Too much powder, unburned gets blown out the muzzle- wastes money.

I hunt (sometimes) with a traditional caplock Hawken. I make my own cartridges using cigarette rolling papers. 6 of those in a plastic .22 box, 6 bullets, and a small tin of caps are all I need for a week's hunting.

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i figured that it would be a tad hard to measure an accurate weight from the can and speed loading is a bad idea as you prolly dont wanna pour powder into a just fired barrel. im gonna be out at the hunting lodge wednesday i might give it a shot as they say for bp deer for one of my doe kills. will be a first for me.

thanks for the tips i got my list and im gonna give it a wack. ill be back online in two weeks-ish. no interweb starting tomorrow

got my camera lots of rifles taking 5 including the cva some to just have a little fun plinking others to hunt with. first time hunt with the 458 socom and possible the cva.

ill report back in 2 weeks with pics.

till laters friends thanks for the help

signing out.

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i figured that it would be a tad hard to measure an accurate weight from the can and speed loading is a bad idea as you prolly dont wanna pour powder into a just fired barrel.
In my many years of muzzleloader shooting i have met one guy who claimed that his missing fingers were the result of "a spark in the barrel" of the gun. Then the rest of the story came to light from other shooters at the range where the incident happened. Despite being warned numerous times; the guy continued to cap the gun before loading it.
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almost a year later i finally worked up to taking it out and shooting it. fired 4 shots didnt hit the target. was 100 yards. i think i need to start at the 25 yard line i dont think cva bothered setting the sights but what do ya expect for under 200$...

i liked it a lot. the first loading i kinda felt like i screwed it up. so i undid the breach plug poured the powder back in the flask and pushed the bullet out from the breach.

used 120 grains of ffg pyrodex under 350grn hornady bullets.

my god that thing fouls the bore!! used dawn and hot water to clean then ran patches through it. then oiled with clp and ran a lubed patch. cleaned out the breach plug. wasnt as bad as i thought despite the severe amount of crap in the bore.

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The CVA Wolf is not a bad rifle, hell I have one. This is what I use to clean & oil all my BP firearms.

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