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 08-06-2009, 03:31 PM | #1 | Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Tenaha Texas, Texas Posts: 27 |  can anyone identity this rifle?
About two weeks ago, a friend gave me this gun. It has an octagon barrel, barrel is between 34 and 35 inches long. It is a muzzle loader and the only Identifying marks on it are the initials S.T.S stamped into the top of the barrel.
I am pretty sure it is a Plains Rifle, but the lady who gave it to me said it came from VA and was used in the civil war..Any one know who may have made it and what its approximate value is? Thanks | 
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| 08-06-2009, 06:37 PM | #2 | Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Tenaha Texas, Texas Posts: 27 | more information
The rifle was made in St Louis about 1860 maybe later, it was owned by Stephen Stutler from West VA and he used it for hunting. The lady I got it from told me she had it appraised a while back in Denver and the appraiser told her somewhere between 1000 and 1500 bucks. It was german made and considered semi fancy.. | |
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| 08-06-2009, 06:42 PM | #3 | mmmmm...... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Maiden, NC Posts: 9,583 |
It's a nice piece either way. __________________
If the pain is lacking so is the discipline...
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| 08-06-2009, 07:43 PM | #4 | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ohio, Ohio Posts: 10,953 |
So is it an actual Civil War used piece or just a hunting rifle? __________________ From C3Shooter:
Skullcrusher, you are evil, sick, demented, twisted- and my hero!
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| 08-06-2009, 07:53 PM | #5 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 142 |
A lot of hunting rifles were pressed into service during the civil war, so it is possible that this rifle was both things. __________________ God knows what we are to do! I am determined, for one, to go with my countrymen; "right or wrong, sink or swim, live or die, survive or perish," I am with them.
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| 08-06-2009, 08:08 PM | #6 | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ohio, Ohio Posts: 10,953 |
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A lot of hunting rifles were pressed into service during the civil war, so it is possible that this rifle was both things.
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I understand this, but if it can't be proven to have been used during the war, that hurts value. That is all. __________________ From C3Shooter:
Skullcrusher, you are evil, sick, demented, twisted- and my hero!
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Originally Posted by pandamonium
...without the Second, we cannot protect the rest!
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| 08-06-2009, 08:56 PM | #7 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 142 |
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I understand this, but if it can't be proven to have been used during the war, that hurts value. That is all.
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Sure, I wasn't impuning your knowledge, just chiming in. __________________ God knows what we are to do! I am determined, for one, to go with my countrymen; "right or wrong, sink or swim, live or die, survive or perish," I am with them.
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| 08-06-2009, 10:10 PM | #8 | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Heidelberg, MS Posts: 1,133 |
I seriously doubt it saw war use. Hunting rifles and even shotguns were pressed into service by Southern volunteers during the first year but were quickly discarded in favor of larger caliber Springfields or Enfields with readily available ammunition. The stock has been cut down as the cheek piece is wrong for a half stock rifle. You don't show a pic of the lock but I'd just about bet it was originally a flintlock converted to percussion. Possibly a Leman trade rifle. | |
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| 08-06-2009, 10:23 PM | #9 | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ohio, Ohio Posts: 10,953 |
Therein you have possibly the best voice on the BP guns on this site. The other, imo, is RL. But, if Hawg says something about your BP weapon, you can just about take it to the bank.
How's about a pic of the hammer side and the barrel markings just to confirm the suspicions.
Great chime in, Hawg.  When are you gonna become a supporting member?
skullcrusher __________________ From C3Shooter:
Skullcrusher, you are evil, sick, demented, twisted- and my hero!
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Originally Posted by pandamonium
...without the Second, we cannot protect the rest!
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| 08-06-2009, 11:06 PM | #10 | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Heidelberg, MS Posts: 1,133 |
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Originally Posted by skullcrusher
Therein you have possibly the best voice on the BP guns on this site. The other, imo, is RL. But, if Hawg says something about your BP weapon, you can just about take it to the bank.
How's about a pic of the hammer side and the barrel markings just to confirm the suspicions.
Great chime in, Hawg. When are you gonna become a supporting member?
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Skullcrusher, don't give me that much credit. I'm not the know all, end all of bp weapons. I imagine RL would agree with me for once. He and I don't always see eye to eye. Supporting member? I dunno. Not really much traffic in the areas that interest me.
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