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W. C. Quantrill 07-02-2012 02:15 AM

1858 Remington
 
Anyone shooting a .44 cal 1858 Remington?


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I'm loading this one with 35 grains of 3f and a grease cookie and a .457 round ball. It shaves just a wee shaving,,and it shoot hard. I would put this in the class of a light .45 Colt load.

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This is a light weight Mexican Double loop, Cheyenne pattern holster that I threw together one evening to have something to carry the 58 with.

I need to repeat that this is a serious, accurate pistol plenty capable of shooting through a person. I think we missed out on some interesting times, fellers.

tiberius10721 07-02-2012 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W. C. Quantrill (Post 855965)
Anyone shooting a .44 cal 1858 Remington?


http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/003403.JPG

I'm loading this one with 35 grains of 3f and a grease cookie and a .457 round ball. It shaves just a wee shaving,,and it shoot hard. I would put this in the class of a light .45 Colt load.

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/004371.JPG
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/006299.JPG
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/007294.JPG
This is a light weight Mexican Double loop, Cheyenne pattern holster that I threw together one evening to have something to carry the 58 with.

I need to repeat that this is a serious, accurate pistol plenty capable of shooting through a person. I think we missed out on some interesting times, fellers.

I have hit the bullseye on a pistol target at 25 yards multiple times with mine. I have the uberti 8 inch barrel version. my favorite load is 25 grains of triple fg powder with cornmeal as a filler ,454 ball topped with crisco. Ive also fired mine with the cylinder filled to the top with black powder and it was almost like firing a 357 magnum. This is the only loaded gun I keep in my house. Everything else I have locked up. If it is stolen no big loss I bought it for 250 dollars at midway usa. I have kept it loaded under my bed for 6 months at a time and it fired just fine. Trick to these pistols is to keep them clean and well lubricated. I always clean mine right after the range with soap and water then lubricate with olive oil.

tiberius10721 07-02-2012 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W. C. Quantrill (Post 855965)
Anyone shooting a .44 cal 1858 Remington?


http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/003403.JPG

I'm loading this one with 35 grains of 3f and a grease cookie and a .457 round ball. It shaves just a wee shaving,,and it shoot hard. I would put this in the class of a light .45 Colt load.

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/004371.JPG
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/006299.JPG
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/007294.JPG
This is a light weight Mexican Double loop, Cheyenne pattern holster that I threw together one evening to have something to carry the 58 with.

I need to repeat that this is a serious, accurate pistol plenty capable of shooting through a person. I think we missed out on some interesting times, fellers.

I have hit the bullseye on a pistol target at 25 yards multiple times with mine. I have the uberti 8 inch barrel version. my favorite load is 25 grains of triple fg powder with cornmeal as a filler ,454 ball topped with crisco. Ive also fired mine with the cylinder filled to the top with black powder and it was almost like firing a 357 magnum. This is the only loaded gun I keep in my house. Everything else I have locked up. If it is stolen no big loss I bought it for 250 dollars at midway usa. I have kept it loaded under my bed for 6 months at a time and it fired just fine. Trick to these pistols is to keep them clean and well lubricated. I always clean mine right after the range with soap and water then lubricate with olive oil. These soft round balls would make a nasty wound on a bad guy.

HockaLouis 07-02-2012 11:05 AM

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Yes, some, but I don't think any are short. Posted the stainless steel one I bought most recently here previously. The new Remington Army was favored at the time for a reason but I, for one, am glad I "missed out" on it then.

Like that you use "sweet oil."

Amazing how many variations we have these days right thru the ROA and even NAA!

W. C. Quantrill 07-02-2012 12:07 PM

Tiberius,
I am surprised at the sheer power of this pistol....

Here in oil field country, we have what is known as Gunbarrels they are large tanks on a lease tank battery where the oil first comes into. Their purpose is to separate the oil and the salt water. The oil floats to the top and goes off into stock tanks, and the water sets on the bottom and is pushed off into a brine tank where it is collected by trucks and taken to be disposed of. The gunbarrels are constructed of 3/16" steel. So now we have that definition cleared up, mostly.

When the bottom rusts out of the gunbarrels they are sold cheap to farmers who pour concrete floors in them and make storage sheds out of them, they are large enough to shelter a vehicle or small tractor when a door is cut in the side. Point being, I have one. I stepped out on my front step, and was testing some powder, and needed a quick target, and that old rusty tank is sitting in the trees about 80 yards out from the house, and I though, nice, these soft lead balls will just splatter on the side and tell me how this is working. Wrong. No splatter, They damn near shot through that 3/16" steel side at 80 yards from just shooting off my porch step. I am impressed.

tiberius10721 07-04-2012 04:30 AM

I have shot old abandoned cars with mine and it made massive jagged holes. I have chronographed it at over 1000 ft per second. These guns are no joke. I keep all my guns locked up but this one. In a self defense situation I would not feel outgunned using my 1858 remmy. I eventually want to buy a conversion cylinder for mine to shoot 45 longcolt.

towboater 07-04-2012 05:20 AM

Love mine.

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Durangokid 07-04-2012 06:11 AM

Hey Bill here is a Remmy 58' and a Rogers & Spencer.:D

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W. C. Quantrill 07-04-2012 11:25 AM

The R&S appears to have perhaps a better set of sights, how do you like shooting it?

Gonzilla 07-04-2012 01:32 PM

Durango must be out busting rocks/liberals... The RS shoots enviable little groups that I w be proud of w my SW 686. Haven't shot my ball n cap Ruger Old Army which is based on the 58 in a long time but 35 gr seems like a middle of the road load.

I too, am amazed it almost penetrated at 80 yds. Would have bet against it but wouldn't be the first time I was wrong & probably won't be the last. LOL

Durango has chastised me about grits & cornmeal as filler to achieve a uniform load. Am trying to keep "breakfast cereals" just for breakfast these days...


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