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Old 10-21-2012, 02:51 PM   #11
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First coats of oil/dye mixture this am.
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I always use the Birchwood Casey Super Blue-
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Stock look great, I can't wait to see the rest of the gun!
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Thanks guys. I'll sand the stock again with 800, then coat again with two different oils before putting on a clear coat. Won't ever be perfect again, but will be a whole world apart from where we found it.

I'll look that stuff up, Hoss. Do you heat any before you start layering your blue?
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Thanks guys. I'll sand the stock again with 800, then coat again with two different oils before putting on a clear coat. Won't ever be perfect again, but will be a whole world apart from where we found it.

I'll look that stuff up, Hoss. Do you heat any before you start layering your blue?
No, I've tryed it but didn't see a difference.
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Rub the bluing very rapidly using a paper towel. For some reason the friction causes it to heat up and some kind of chemical reaction helps the finish to become more durible. I can't explain it, but it was told to me many years ago by my uncle and it's always worked. When not done the bluing seemed to wear off a lot faster. Using oooo steel wool finishes it off nicely without removing any of the blue and seems to even out the finish with a nice sheen.
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Rub the bluing very rapidly using a paper towel. For some reason the friction causes it to heat up and some kind of chemical reaction helps the finish to become more durible. I can't explain it, but it was told to me many years ago by my uncle and it's always worked. When not done the bluing seemed to wear off a lot faster. Using oooo steel wool finishes it off nicely without removing any of the blue and seems to even out the finish with a nice sheen.
Well, each to his own I guess----the blue has to soak in for at least a minute- rubbing with a ruff towell won't allow that- try a cotton ball.
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Well, each to his own I guess----the blue has to soak in for at least a minute- rubbing with a ruff towell won't allow that- try a cotton ball.
I didn't mean to rub it with paper towel while wet. Do it when dry and of course some residue will come off on the towel, but you can repeat this several times till you're satisfied with the way it looks. Cotton balls are fine to apply the blue, but does nothing else. I'll say again that there's something about those paper towels that makes the cold bluing hold up more permanent. The oooo steel wool finishes it off nicely without removing any of the finish. Museums use oooo to remove rust from weapons, cause it doesn't effect the original finish.

Seven, or eight years ago my friend asked me to re-blue his Jap type 26 revolver that he had just bought, which had been in a fire and the finish was destroyed by the heat, but lucky for him the grips were fine. It came out great and still looks great to this day. People who see it can't tell it was ever touched. If I get a chance I'll get a hold of him and take a photo of it and post it.

Isn't it worth giving this method a try rather than just disregarding it? It costs nothing except a couple of minutes of your time.

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Decided to go with the Formula 44/40 bluing, since it was local. Picked up a small bottle this am after I dropped the kids a school.

The barrel was stripped then buffed down to bare metal. I then soaked it a few times in brake cleaner to get the remaining oils off.

I pre-heated my oven to 170* for about 20 mins. I placed the barrel in the oven for about 5-6 mins to get it up to 95-100* to optimize the bluing adhesion. I wiped on very liberal coats with a clean old cotton sock. Once the entire barrel was wiped thoroughly, I wiped it back down with a dry clean cotton rag to remove any excess solution. Followed that with using 0000 steel wool to rub down every inch of the blued surface.

I repeated that process three times to get to the color I have now. Then I repeated the same for the trigger guard and the bolt button pull and stock barrel retention screw.

Put it back together and here's how she looks. Not to bad considering how rough it was. Could probably use 2-3 more coats of blue to be the best it's gonna get. Probably do that after I take it out to test fire it Friday.

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