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Old 02-17-2014, 06:48 AM   #281
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at least it's Coming down,..and it's available. Anything over $50 is a bit much, but 6 Months ago there was NOTHING around, and If you Got a Brick(like I did Federal 550's for $49.99) you(we) were Overjoyed! Hopefully we have some better availability over the next few months...
I agree 100%. I read somewhere that many manufacturers are installing new rimfire equipment to meet demand. That means that consumer will have to pay for the new equipment. But once demand is met we should see $25 bricks, not $50 bricks.
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True John. Clearly there are still "profiteers" selling the ammo at jacked up prices....

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It's really hard for me to believe that if there is a market for more ammo, the manufacturers and the stores were making money at the old prices, they would spend the capitol on machining to meet the market needs. They would knock the bottom out of the profiteers market. The constitution says we have the right to bear arms but says nothing about ammo! Think about it! The manufacturers and stores are loosing money if they cant keep ammo on the shelves.

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It's really hard for me to believe that if there is a market for more ammo, the manufacturers and the stores were making money at the old prices, they would spend the capitol on machining to meet the market needs. They would knock the bottom out of the profiteers market. The constitution says we have the right to bear arms but says nothing about ammo! Think about it! The manufacturers and stores are loosing money if they cant keep ammo on the shelves.
You are talking about 10s of millions of dollars to start up and over a year to get everything ready. Then of course, you need to make sure that future demand will justify your investment
When everyone has a big stockpile sitting in a closet, how much future demand will there be?
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.22 ammo is not hard to find. Just as much of it is hitting the shelves as always. What the problem is the demand has skyrocketed so a stores normal weekly replenishment is now sold out in an hour because the weeks worth of customers is standing in line as the clerk unpacks it.

Should the manufactures be able to flood the shelves with ammo so that there was no way the scalpers would be able to artificially create the shortage. The demand would disappear in a short time as would the purpose for any ramped up production. Leaving the manufacturers out to dry.

The only way to stop this stupidity is to stop the stupidity of buying over priced ammo. Choking off the profit margin of the scalpers.

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.22 ammo is not hard to find. Just as much of it is hitting the shelves as always. What the problem is the demand has skyrocketed so a stores normal weekly replenishment is now sold out in an hour because the weeks worth of customers is standing in line as the clerk unpacks it.

Should the manufactures be able to flood the shelves with ammo so that there was no way the scalpers would be able to artificially create the shortage. The demand would disappear in a short time as would the purpose for any ramped up production. Leaving the manufacturers out to dry.

The only way to stop this stupidity is to stop the stupidity of buying over priced ammo. Choking off the profit margin of the scalpers.
I believe you've hit the nail on the head. If everyone quit buying ammo at 3x-5x retail there would be no incentive for the scalper to buy up all they could. Stocks of ammo would reappear and nobody would feel the need to overpay.
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10s of millions of dollars is chump change, Manufacturers could recoup the cost in a matter of weeks if they would step up to the line.

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10s of millions of dollars is chump change, Manufacturers could recoup the cost in a matter of weeks if they would step up to the line.
Well, there is start up cost and then there is operating cost. The priming process in 22 manufacturing is very labor intensive. You need to train and ramp people up. You need process engineers to set up the line. You need to buy the space to set up the line. The profit margin on ammo is thin at the manufacturer level.

It may be profitable for a year until demand falls to normal levels or below as in previous panics. The manufacturer is left with excess capacity. Even if it is shut down, it still needs to be paid for.
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Then here is hoping that the prices continue to fall considerably in the next few weeks and months,..because we shot off between 350 and 400 asstd. 22's yesterday....


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The NRA stand on ammo shortage:
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/02/17/the-nra-reveals-whos-to-blame-for-ammo-shortage-yo.aspx

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