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Old 12-26-2010, 01:11 AM   #21
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Agree with bigdog57, tehre is a time and place for each. I have both and like them both. I even have one of those ill-fated AMT Automag II pistols. There is a warning paper that came with it which states "CCI ammo with flake-type powder will not function". It did jam alot with many brands of ammo; seriously every second or third round it would jam. I decided to keep it because even though it did not work well I thought it looked cool. Then they came out with the 32 and 34 grain plastic tip 22WMR bullets and WOW I had a great shooter. Turns out it eats those smaller bullets and hardly ever jams when I use them.

Then there is my 10/22 Mag rifle and my CZ 452 in 17HMR. I converted the Ruger to shoot 17HMR using a Magnum Research barrel and then read about Remington recalling their 597's in 17HMR so I switched back to the factory barrel and bought the CZ.

My point is just about when you think its over they come out with something new that works. Glad I kept the darned AMT but if I had to chose just one caliber it would be the 22WMR.

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The .22 mag is more of a real round that you can hunt with,on the other hand,if you want a really nice practice rifle to match your .270 and save alot of money hitting targets 300 yards out,then the .17HMR would be the way to go.

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Oh I have hunted with the 17HMR; trouble is if used correctly within the parameters of the round it devastates anything it hits. It has torn apart bunnies and other small animals; if you are looking for a hide left in good shape, forget it.

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Oh I have hunted with the 17HMR; trouble is if used correctly within the parameters of the round it devastates anything it hits. It has torn apart bunnies and other small animals; if you are looking for a hide left in good shape, forget it.
Quoted for truth. I've hit little critters in my garden and there's not a lot left. A crow at 100 yards will be no more than a puff of feathers Makes the other crows think though
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Not bashing the 17 as I've never actually shot one but what's the point of such a round? OK, you can blow up squirrels, rabbits and the neighbors cat that keeps getting in your basement but that doesn't do much for me.

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The point is "Marketing"! They need to create markets in order to sell more firearms. I think it really is that simple. That dosen't mean we can not enjoy the new products; I for one have owned over 600 firearms and had become a little jaded so when they bring out new stuff I like to give it a try. One of the best examples I can think of is the 5.7X28 FN developed. After FN was done with it to get it imported to our great and glorious land the bullet was dumbed down to near 22WMR ballistics. It is still a pretty neat little round.

The product that most amazed me last year was the PWA upper they came out with. FN demands way too much money for their firearms and the PS90 is a great example, I'll bet it cost them less than $200 to make and they could probably sell them for under $1,000 and still be making a bunch of money. Well they price them at around $2,000 MSRP; although I have seen them as low as $1,400 lately. Then Pac West Arms comes out with a 5.7 upper that fits unto an AR, uses the FN PS90 mags and ejects the spent casings out the bottom of the AR mag well. I was really impressed with the thought and engineering that went into that.

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Sorry gunut, but I always thought the FN 5.7 was stupid. It was another answer to a question that was not asked.

I agree with you on marketing though and balistically the 17 is pretty cool but that's were it stops. It would be great for punching paper if it weren't so expensive and outside of the neighbors cat I like to eat the animals I hunt so blowing them up doesn't work for me.
Everyone seems to think they need to improve on the 22 (LR or Mag) and so far they haven't been able to. Especially the 22LR.

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No apology needed Spittinfire; we obviously like firearms for different reasons. You write like a very practical man and that is not a bad thing. I am at the other end; fifty-five and entering the baby boomer age close to my second retirement and all that. Given the way the economy might tank with all the dire predictions your practicallity may turn out to be very useful in the very near future for all of us.

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Has anyone hunted with the newer 30 & 33 grain .22wmr ammo yet??

Dang near as fast as .17hmr...2200FPS ain't going slow

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I am kind of new to the gun world, and I have read alot and talk to alot of people about the .17hmr and the.22wmr. And I would have to say I plan on getting the .22mag myself, for the reason if you did need to take care of a small animal your sure to take care of it. but JMO. So as a new guy wanting to buy one, id say they are here to stay.

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