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Old 10-13-2012, 04:46 PM   #31
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Great repair-specific forum for any rimfire firearm!!
They tend towards the Technical repair and writeup...
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I would go with the Remington.

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I think you get a different group of buyers on forums like these. You get people who are very much into shooting and guns and a lot of them like to modify their stuff. Those people tend to like Rugers because there are a lot of aftermarket parts for them. But remember when you replace a barrel or a trigger you've really bought two triggers for one gun or two barrels for one gun and one will get tossed aside. In the long run a built up Ruger will not hold it's value. You'll never get back out of them the money you put into aftermarket parts. They can be made into fantastic shooters but it will cost quite a bit and again, you'll never get that much money back from them.

The 597 is a more accurate rifle out of the box. But there is little to no aftermarket for it. Same goes for Marlin 60's. They are considerably more accurate than a Ruger when both just came out of the box (I've compared many side by side when they were both brand new). The truth is that a lot more people buy Marlins than buy Rugers because you get a great rifle that doesn't need to be modified to work very well. Some Marlins can be very accurate right out of the box. Some are better than others but they're all pretty accurate and more accurate than a stock Ruger. Again I've tested this many times.

There is a growing aftermarket for Marlin rifles too. You can now buy better triggers which was always the weak part of a 60. They weren't terrible but they had a long and fairly hard pull. Now you can get a much better trigger for not a lot of money.

BTW tube mags are great. When you start from ammo in the box and go to a loaded rifle they are MUCH faster to load than a box mag. Plus you never have to worry about losing a mag but you can lose the inner mag but you have to really be spaced out to do that. And the mag doesn't hang down and get caught on brush or whatever if you're moving through the woods. You'd be surprised how much of a problem that can be with a box mag rifle. That's why Ruger uses their round mags that down stick out very much. But those things are very hard to load for me. It will take me a couple of minutes to load one while I can load a tube mag in about 25 seconds.

Some Rugers can be pretty accurate right out of the box. That should be said. But a lot of Marlins are very accurate right out of the box. Every rifle is an individual. But there are trends and IMO the Marlins are by far the best choice for a semi-auto rimfire rifle.

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I'm a prepper, so I like to think ahead and if for whatever reason I'm being shot at, I can reload faster with the 10/22 that's what I like however isn't a marlin 795 the exact same thing as the 60 except its mag fed? Are the 795s more accurate than 10/22s? Is a Remington 597 more accurate than a marlin 60 or 795 ?

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I have the 10/22, wife has the Henry lever action. Both are reliable and pretty darn accurate right out of the box, but nowhere near as accurate as my fathers Springfield Model 15 single shot, willed to me. Nothing fancy, it was an average boy's rat-shooting rifle 70 years ago. THAT'S the one I have the most fun with!

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I'm a prepper, so I like to think ahead and if for whatever reason I'm being shot at, I can reload faster with the 10/22 that's what I like however isn't a marlin 795 the exact same thing as the 60 except its mag fed? Are the 795s more accurate than 10/22s? Is a Remington 597 more accurate than a marlin 60 or 795 ?
Will the .22 be the only gun in the house? If not I wouldn't shoot anything but rabbits, squirrels, and targets with the .22.
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Will the .22 be the only gun in the house? If not I wouldn't shoot anything but rabbits, squirrels, and targets with the .22.
IMO the .22 is a very very lethal round. However my dad will also have his ruger sr9.
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I'm a prepper, so I like to think ahead and if for whatever reason I'm being shot at, I can reload faster with the 10/22 that's what I like however isn't a marlin 795 the exact same thing as the 60 except its mag fed? Are the 795s more accurate than 10/22s? Is a Remington 597 more accurate than a marlin 60 or 795 ?
As far as precision from the box...if one takes a little time to use proper ammo, say Wolf Match in all three...
and slap 'em in a Lead Sled taking human error out....
One will find that the Marlin 795 or 60 will come out on top, the 597 second (if it operates worth a dang) and the 1022 third.
We've about beat this to death over at RFC...and its come up that way every time they've been tested...
Oddly, there seems to be little difference in how well the two Marlins work, until you bed 'em...
then for some reason the 795 gets REAL tight on groups...the 60 slightly less so, but still great groups...

Biggest headache on any of 'em are the mags...at least 795, 597, & 1022...
the 60 rarely has such issues as long as you clean it periodically
ALL the rest cry out for pillar bedding so that one can have consistant stock/action/magwell alignment...which also enhances precision...
My suggestion, DO NOT use aftermarket mags unless you've already gotten your carbine bedded or pillar-bedded...
the chance of misaligned magwells are pretty darn high when folks get nuts about cranking or not cranking down their screws to the proper torque...
most folks don't even think about the effect that over- or under-torquing of bolts has on a firearm...but it sure pays to think about it!!

A small note on Marlin 795 Mags:
The stock ones give you far less issues...the grey-follower Champion 25-rd mags seem to be the best of the Aftermarket mags so far...
but they still pretty much require bedding/pillar bedding for best results...
The green-follower Shooter's Ridge mags were the first series, and like any first series...had alignment issues...hit or miss quality...
The "National Magazine" 15-rd mags are Garbage...I've got two and have only gotten one to function worth a dang...after serious metal modification...
the other still sits in a drawer and waits for a time when I've got a lot of patience on standby...LOL
IF you want to use Older Marlin Mags (like the old 12/13-rd ones from the 70's/80's) you have to file off the magwell bump inside the magwell of the 795
This is covered in great detail over at RFC with pics...heck, I might have an old thread here on it with pics...
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So what he is saying is the same thing I said. The Marlin 60 is simply the best. If quick reloading is going to be an issue, the the choice of a 22 caliber is probably wrong. How ever they do make tubes for speed loading. Just shooting my Marlin was enough to quite my son talking about how great his 10 22 was.

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