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tomknotts 08-16-2011 03:51 AM

Want a 22 semi need help
 
Hey guys first time post... normally i go shooting with my uncle and he prefers big bore riffles and being one of them starving students i cant afford the ammo lol... so i figure id get a nice 22 till i get done school... My uncle would help but he doesnt know much about 22lr any more.

ok so mainly i will be target shooting and plinking... I have my eye on the remington 597 vtr (the heavey barrel with floating barrel and kinda pistol grip) or a ruger 10/22 with the heavy barrel.
on top of this i will need a decent scope

ok to start money isnt a huge deal (looking to spend 800 max hooping toget allot of ammo with that too lol)

I want to be very accurate at 100yrd less then an 1" grouping
i want a scope for it that is easily adjustable for wind and range... with great repeatability)
i also want to be very accurate right out of the box... i might spend 100 on accesories but hopefully wont have too...

so out of those rifle what do you recomend with what accessories and scopes... also i deffinatly want a semi as when i move up to big bore i want to be able to have the semi for fun.

thanks guys

Thomas

moron88 08-18-2011 06:54 AM

general consensus is pretty much anything with the marlin or savage name will be accurate. that seems to have crossed over to Remington as well since they bought marlin. i have never shot any .22 semi auto rifle but people seem to be happy with the savage 64 and marlin 795. as for scopes, look up leapers. they aren't the end all be all of scope manufacturers but they are well respected in the air gun circles which can be more accurate and have more recoil than a .22.

Hawg 08-18-2011 10:28 AM

You're not going to get that kind of accuracy with a 10/22. Go with the Marlin.

TekGreg 08-18-2011 11:44 AM

A Great .22
 
Tom, first off, welcome to the forum! Always glad to see a new member to our family. Please feel free to ask anything that you can think of in the way of firearms and we'll do our best to help you out.

Now, as far as your new .22 purchase, I've got a couple of tips for you. I knew a group of a couple dozen .22 shooters that used to shoot bricks of ammo at a time and the good shooters used to approach just over 3/4". The problem is they were using rifles like Anschutz and Kimber, real high-end stuff. The one Ruger in the group was custom: a 77/22 with a stainless Lilja barrel and a custom 2 lb trigger. There was a 10/22 that had the trigger pull lightened with a Volquartsen hammer and the chamber and barrel had been accurized. This custom work was what was required to get under 1" at 100 yards - this is a sub-MOA gun which will always cost some money. :eek:

Every .22 shooter I know had to find the ammo that worked best in his weapon. There is no shortcut to this. You haunt gun stores, sporting goods stores, big box stores, order it online, search through Shotgun News and find every brand of ammo you possibly can. Hyper-, standard- and sub-sonic velocity are all a possibility. light and heavy bullet weights. Standard and match grade. You will be surprised what something like Match grade Lapua .22 rounds will run you Lapua X-ACT but they will usually match up with a match-quality barrel quite well. The problem is that ammunition is probably the BIGGEST influence on accuracy and group size in a .22 rifle. There is no substitute to buying hundreds of each round and shooting them under controlled conditions to find out which is the very best in YOUR gun. ;)

Finally, make sure when you buy a scope that it is a RIMFIRE scope. Most centerfire scopes are parallax-adjusted to 125-150 yards, whereas rimfire scopes are parallax-adjusted at 50 yards. This is a huge difference and can keep you from having any sort of true accuracy if you aren't seeing the target correctly. Also, you might consider a fixed power scope, like a 4X, so that after the scope is adjusted to center at 50 or 100 yards, you can just bring it to bear and won't be playing with adjusting the power.

And just my .02 - I have a Ruger 10/22 (non-HB version) that is decades old and is deadly accurate with CCI ammo. I wouldn't trade it for anything if my life depended on it. :cool: :D

OC357 08-18-2011 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TekGreg (Post 565400)
And just my .02 - I have a Ruger 10/22 (non-HB version) that is decades old and is deadly accurate with CCI ammo. I wouldn't trade it for anything if my life depended on it. :cool: :D

^^this. Except I was stupid and sold mine.


Mine was dead on balls accurate with no scope right out of the box with CCI Mini Mags.

Just my experience.

OC

dks7895 08-18-2011 02:15 PM

Your requirement of semi-auto kinda changes things. A bolt action CZ or Anschutz will be easily capable of 1" groups @ 100 yards. However, a semi-auto is a different bird. I think your best bet for out of the box accuracy would be with a Marlin 795. Replace the tupperware stock, a little trigger work and some nice glass can be done well under your $800 budget. A Ruger 10/22 can shoot just as well, but you will spend every bit of the $800 and maybe more. Not a fan of the Savage 64 or the Remington 597.

You can buy the Marlin 795 for ~$125 and Marlin is offering a $25 mail in rebate through 2011 on top of that. Buy a $40 rimfire scope and hit 1" groups @ 50 yards with ease.

Trez 08-18-2011 02:47 PM

I would recommend a Weatherby MK. XXII, Its my most accurate .22 and Its still in its factory configuration... I dont know what they go for these days though....

dks7895 08-18-2011 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Trez (Post 565471)
I would recommend a Weatherby MK. XXII, Its my most accurate .22 and Its still in its factory configuration... I dont know what they go for these days though....

The OP is looking for a semi-auto. The Weatherby Mark XXII, a fine rifle, is a bolt action.

Mark XXII | Weatherby.com

Trip83 08-18-2011 08:08 PM

I have a marlin model 60 that i use to squirrel hunt and target practice with... its a fun gun to shoot!! and cheep!!!

Trip83 08-18-2011 08:11 PM

I have a marlin model 60 that i use to squirrel hunt and target practice with... its a fun gun to shoot!! and cheep! looking at 150 to 175 in price ... its holds 14 + 1


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