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Old 04-23-2013, 01:32 AM   #41
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I believe fully that a .22 can work perfectly well. It may not make as big of a hole, however it is a very fast moving bullet and can carry enough momentum to tear up quite a bit on the inside of someone. Is that what I sleep beside? No, I opt for my .45, but in a pinch I would not hesitate to unload some .22 into someone and be fully confident it will put them down.

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I agree with you. A handgun is always a compromise. However, I don't place myself in the category that "if it doesn't start with a four, it's not a real caliber." Many shooters I've trained have been slight of build or had physical handicaps that precluded the use of a "serious" caliber. I think it's disingenuous to make them think that if they choose a .22 and practice religiously that it's still worthless because they can't handle a "serious" caliber that starts with four.

So it is comforting for those who choose or are limited to a smaller caliber to know that, in real life, it does not take 100 rounds center mass to stop an assailant! It is also good to pay attention to the limitations of any caliber on the list and to know how many rounds it usually takes to stop an assailant in real life. The number of shooters that still believe in a magic "ray gun" effect if they just choose the right gun/ammo/caliber/optic combo is frightening.

Facts are always better than rumor the same as a rifle is always better than a pistol when your life depends on it!
I get it. A .22 LR when it des everything it is supposed to do is definitely nothing to be dismissed entirely. Just be sure as you train people that they understand the limitations and the very real possibility that it may fail to stop someone in any reasonable amount if time.

There was a thread elsewhere on the forums here about a fisherman being killed by a beaver. One person who posted a reply cited an occasion where he fired over ten shots into a beaver that was acting aggressive and failed to stop it.

I've done some trapping in the past and used a .22 on occasion to dispatch a couple beavers that were still alive when I did the daily trap line checks. I never had a beaver not die pretty quick with a single shot from my Ruger Single Six or mkII.

All that was just to say its not always about how something can work, sometimes its about how often is it likely to fail and is that worth the risk?
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Trying...not ....to make...beaver jokes...

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I wonder, if i took some cci stingers and made the cavity/hollow point in the tip bigger would it cause more expansion and be better for HD? It would probably lead to reliability issues though...

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You want energy dump AND penetration. Now I have Primer1's dilemma...

Anyway, for sound I keep two pair of these in the nightstand and they ain't for sleepin' late. I wouldn't use them as my main hearing protection at an indoor range and only sometimes do I use them at outdoors ranges, but I do use them when I want to hear around me but still mitigate really loud, damaging, sound. .22's outddors, hunting, home-defense if the situation allows...

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I wonder, if i took some cci stingers and made the cavity/hollow point in the tip bigger would it cause more expansion and be better for HD? It would probably lead to reliability issues though...
modifying rimfire ammo or any ammo without know what you are doing, could have results that are not pleasing to you.

best suggestion, buy different ammo.
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Trying...not ....to make...beaver jokes...
I figured that could become a problem. I had to rephrase a few things I had started to write because of the way that they could read.
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Never underestimate how fast a crackhead or methhead can move. Also, someone on that garbage can not realize they are even shot, or not care. They won't go down until they bleed out, which will take longer with a .22 wound. Thats why I use a bigger caliber for h.d.
!!!!HEAD SHOT!!!!! Insta death
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!!!!HEAD SHOT!!!!! Insta death
In the movies yes, real life not always. Still probably the best bet with a .22 though IMO.
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Center mass in a self defense situation is almost always best. Things happen fast, and most likely you will spend too much time identifying your target than aiming. Shooting a family member, neighbor, or friend playing a prank is a good way to ruin your day, along with the other guy.

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