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Old 04-06-2013, 02:09 AM   #31
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I just wanted to throw this out there my buddy had an old house in his back yard he was going to tear down I asked if I could do some close quarters training with live rounds. I tried first with no ear protection and it disoriented the hell outta me swat teams have eye and ear protection when carrying out operations.If no ears the helmet at least provides some. Also they have trained in that situation they are expecting it. Try shooting in doors with out them it can be done but is something you should be ready for because it is quite shocking if your not ready for it. A 22 is a lot easier on you in door although my first choice is my 40 cal handgun for hd.

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One more thing if I had to use it if feel pretty dam safe with my mp5 22 not one malfunction after 1500 rounds also I can get a 2 inch group at 25 yards with this reflex sight

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This is a lot of theory and opinion. In cases like this, only the facts matter.

First off, this link is an article containing the ballistic facts of 10-years of actual shootings. If you can't handle your preconceived ideas being destroyed by facts, DO NOT read it. Those of you wanting real-life shooting facts to use to determine the efficacy of different calibers will be happily surprised and entertained.

As far as the "unreliable" .22 LR, ANY pistol or rifle has a certain type or brand that it always shoots better. There are premium .22 rounds that are more expensive, more accurate and more reliable than the "junk" ammo we all plink with. Also, all magazines should be battle-tested before being used for self-defense. No gun, not even your Glock, is going to be 100% reliable with junk ammo in untested magazines. And you have absolutely no excuse for not trying 10-15 different brands of ammo in your .22 LR at their relatively low price point compared to centerfire ammo. My .22 has tested magazines holding a brand of ammo that is 100% reliable and deadly accurate.

Finally, if your .22 LR is going to be a defense gun, there is no law saying a gunsmith cannot polish, port and accurize it just like any other weapon. Any weapon becomes better with professional improvements. These guns are treated as "beater" weapons and then knocked when they don't come off the shelf with stunning reliability and accuracy. Treat your .22 the same as your other self-defense guns and then you won't be comparing apples and oranges.

Oh, and I also CLEAN my .22.
The troubling part of that study with regard to selecting a .22 is still the "failure to incapacitate" section. The .22 through .380 are in that marginal area where it leaves a lot if doubt.

Again, I'm not saying a .22 can't get it done it just leaves a lot of doubt. I have carried a .22 on occasion. I just do so with the understanding that it is a compromise like any handgun.

I've said for a long time, if I had the option all the time, I'd carry a rifle.
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A face full of 22's is better than nothing if that is all you have handy and can shoot it better than the big bore

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I would feel very comfortable with a .22 depending on the actual firearm.Most .22's I would pass on, but my Ruger MK3 22-45 with the little 4" barrel I would definitely use because I know I could put 10 rounds in the torso in less than 2 seconds from any range up to like 10 yards.

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I believe I could defend myself with just about any firearm. That being said if there was a 22 and a 44 sitting on a table together. Im going for the 44!

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The troubling part of that study with regard to selecting a .22 is still the "failure to incapacitate" section. The .22 through .380 are in that marginal area where it leaves a lot if doubt.

Again, I'm not saying a .22 can't get it done it just leaves a lot of doubt. I have carried a .22 on occasion. I just do so with the understanding that it is a compromise like any handgun.

I've said for a long time, if I had the option all the time, I'd carry a rifle.
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I agree with you. A handgun is always a compromise. However, I don't place myself in the category that "if it doesn't start with a four, it's not a real caliber." Many shooters I've trained have been slight of build or had physical handicaps that precluded the use of a "serious" caliber. I think it's disingenuous to make them think that if they choose a .22 and practice religiously that it's still worthless because they can't handle a "serious" caliber that starts with four.

So it is comforting for those who choose or are limited to a smaller caliber to know that, in real life, it does not take 100 rounds center mass to stop an assailant! It is also good to pay attention to the limitations of any caliber on the list and to know how many rounds it usually takes to stop an assailant in real life. The number of shooters that still believe in a magic "ray gun" effect if they just choose the right gun/ammo/caliber/optic combo is frightening.

Facts are always better than rumor the same as a rifle is always better than a pistol when your life depends on it!
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For .22lr HOME DEFENSE, there are only two real options...
both of which can throw suffient amount of rounds to give an entire gang second thoughts...
and lots of holes in their bodies...

The Calico M-110 pistol...with 100-rds magazine capacity...yes that's a laser on top...


And the Calico M-100 carbine...also with 100-rds capacity...get yer own model, she ain't included

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For .22lr HOME DEFENSE, there are only two real options...
both of which can throw suffient amount of rounds to give an entire gang second thoughts...
and lots of holes in their bodies...

The Calico M-110 pistol...with 100-rds magazine capacity...yes that's a laser on top...


And the Calico M-100 carbine...also with 100-rds capacity...get yer own model, she ain't included
She can come to the range with my anytime!
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My choice is my .22 Magnum. If 10 Rounds of CCI ammo won't drop the perp I'll use it as a club.

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