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Old 06-06-2010, 06:36 PM   #11
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The .22LR is a great round and with the right gun, it is a great survival option. The Kel-Tec mentioned is a good gun (I have the 223 pistol version), but under the scenario mentioned, I think 22LR is the best fit. I plan to get the 22 version of the Kel-Tec rifle as a good go-bag item.

Everyone dismisses the 22, but forgets that Hinkley took down 4 people with a 22LR snub-nose pistol. Also RFK was killed with a 22LR snub-nose. There's a lot of good ammo out there now for personal defense such as CCI Velocitors. And for hunting, when I was a kid, that's about all we used (that and a 410) and we killed just about everything we shot at (rabbits, squirrels, etc..). You can eat for a long time from the fruit of a 22LR.

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22lr is the ticket for emergency hunting. But I would also have a large caliber handgun for defense. A loaded pistol with a couple of extra mags would last a long time if only used for self defense. I would not trust my life to a 22.

Sounds good to me. A .22 rifle for gathering food, and a centerfire handgun "just in case"....
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.22's are responsible for more firearms deaths in the US than most other calibers.

It'll kill.

Of course, it also helps if it's followed by a bunch more...that's why I prefer the Calico .22's...
100 rounds per magazine bumpfired can do a LOT of damage


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Default Aquila 60 grain bullet

Has anyone been hunting with the Aquila 60 grain bullet? I was just wondering how much difference there is with the 60 grain vs. the 40 grain. Also the 60 grain is a sub-sonic round.

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I study actual survival situations and can attest to the fact that food and water are THE most important items to have. Water can be found in many places however food is another thing altogeather. I live in big game rich area and have calculated that is the SHTF the large game wouldnt last for a year. Without refrigeration much waste would be common. Though we only have @3000 residents there would not be enough to last our community for a year. Then there is the noise of a large caliber round alerting everyone for miles that there is quite likely food for the taking in the vacinity of the sound. The average person would quickly be reduced to eating birds and squirrels. The 22 would be the ticket for such game. The fact that 400 rounds of 22lr's wight the same as 25 12 guages allows the carrying of plenty of ammo. In WWII in Alaska the soldiers were struggling on the Jap held islands. Castners Cuttroats were a band of woodmen the army recruited to scout for the Japs. T

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Sorry about that I punched the wrong button. To continue the scouts used scoped sighted rifles and to the man was issued 22 handguns to supply them with food while on long range scoutings. The mad trapper of the Rat River, the true story the movie "DEATHWISH" was based on took place in the far Nothwest Territories. After weeks of pursuit, he was spotted by aircraft, and when the Mounties shot him, it was discovered he had 2 guns on him. A Savage 99 in 30-30 and a Winchester pump 22. In his pockets was a dead bird and squirrel. He had never had a fire or had fired a shot that could be heard and supplied himself with food along the way leaving no signs of any big game being taken. About every sourdough in Alaska and Canada had a 22 to supply daily food. You cant shoot a moose every time you get hungry. I believe a 22 would be my first choice.

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My personal choice would be (and is) a good .22 magnum semiauto. Mine is a takedown model Brno 611. You can use solid point bullets on small game and they don't tear meat up as much as a .22LR HP. On larger game the solid point will produce almost twice the penetration of a .22LR. Naturally varmints require hollow pointed bullets. You can also carry the same amount of ammo as .22LR.

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I have a Savage 24, 22LR over 410.

The 22 can take just about any small game. The 410 can use bird shot, buck shot and slugs and equals a 44 Mag with slugs.

It's a pivot barrel so it breaks down easy and carries well in the field.

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I set peaple up with survival gear as well as how when and where to find info and get some great deals for equpiment and I have found it best to have two weapons in a grab and run bag. one is a AR-7 made by Henry it is a complete rifle and holds up under severe conditions comes with two ten round Mags can take a scope if you need one but I have found the peep sights work great out to 50 yards Rabits , squirls and other small game even Birds sitting in a branch are fair game when you need some food. as for stopping power yes it can and has killed two legged men ( and women ) when used for that purpose but that also takes a good shot and a steady hand when you are in a real situation of life and death you wont be calm and collected so I also recomend another survival rivle it has a 22 LR single shot and another barrel with a 410 shotgun cartridge .. other wise carry a extra weapon such as a 38 spl. or other handgun doesnt matter if it is a revolver or a semi auto just as long as you are comfy with it and PRACTICE with it

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