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Old 02-18-2013, 04:11 PM   #1
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Calling all gunsmiths, amateur or otherwise:

I have a Savage 93R17 BV. If you know this model you know it comes with a pretty small bolt handle. So I had Savage send me the more robust part that comes on the TR model.

I knew that I was going to have to check the headspacing once I got the new handle affixed to the actual bolt but here's the issue I encountered:

I inserted the bolt, new handle and all. It cocks, I can dry fire but the handle doesn't fully seat downward. Not sure what the issue is, unless that's the headspacing that needs adjustment. It appears that aside from a larger knob the two handles, small and new tactical, are the same size.

Any advise/expertise/solutions?

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Old 02-19-2013, 05:44 AM   #2
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Calling all gunsmiths, amateur or otherwise:

I have a Savage 93R17 BV. If you know this model you know it comes with a pretty small bolt handle. So I had Savage send me the more robust part that comes on the TR model.

I knew that I was going to have to check the headspacing once I got the new handle affixed to the actual bolt but here's the issue I encountered:

I inserted the bolt, new handle and all. It cocks, I can dry fire but the handle doesn't fully seat downward. Not sure what the issue is, unless that's the headspacing that needs adjustment. It appears that aside from a larger knob the two handles, small and new tactical, are the same size.

Any advise/expertise/solutions?
Yea, don't dry fire a rimfire!! There are very few rimfires that you can safely dry fire.

But as far as your question, can you provide any pictures or possibly a more detailed explanation? It would help a lot if we could see it like you do.
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So the only part you replaced was the bolt handle? You need to explain more so we can understand and can help.

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thanks for the replies fellas. sorry for the delay. deadlines at the workhouse. anyway. take a look. the one on the right is the new handle attached to the bolt. obviously the one on the left was what got replaced. same thing, different knob. second pic shows how far down the handle will seat. the bolt is as far forward in the receiver as it'll go. that handle should be waaay farther down.

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thanks for the replies fellas. sorry for the delay. deadlines at the workhouse. anyway. take a look. the one on the right is the new handle attached to the bolt. obviously the one on the left was what got replaced. same thing, different knob. second pic shows how far down the handle will seat. the bolt is as far forward in the receiver as it'll go. that handle should be waaay farther down.
On the old one, is that threading or a spring?
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On the old one, is that threading or a spring?
Actually that's a spring. There are threads just inward of the handle that couple the assembly together.
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IIRC, on that rifle, as with most rimfires, there are no locking lugs on the bolt- lock is obtained from the section at the base of the bolt handle engaging the notch in the frame of the firearm.

If you have not changed the bolt, headspace would be unlikely to be changed, HOWEVER- a dimensional difference in the square section at the base of the bolt handle WILL affect lockup. If the new handle has a larger base, it will not engage the notch in the same way.

Take a mike and measure both new and old, see what you get.

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here I'll reveal my ignorance. what's a mike?

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Micrometer. If you reload you can use a caliper also.
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Aha! MICROMETER.
I have some precision calipers I use in cabinetmaking and finish carpentry. Gets down to the 100ths. So I'm measuring the length of the two handles to see if there's any minute discrepancies between the two?
I pride myself on my mechanical aptitude as a builder and carpenter. Rifles are a relatively new undertaking and gun smithing is a skill I'd like to take up so I can maintain and modify my toys myself. Obviously they're nothing to f@~k around with so all the patient feedback is greatly appreciated. A gunsmith will be doing all the tinkering until I gain the confidence to do this stuff myself.
Thanks, folks.

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