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Rifle 22 worth it or not?

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Old 06-06-2011, 02:33 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by warhawk77 View Post
I forgot to ask the question earlier.

How much stopping power do 22 have? I am talking 22 long. Someone is trying to tell me a 22 isn't worth anything and clothing can stop the bullet. I guess if you wear a few dozen layers it might.

My thought is if you punch a lung on a deer or even a bear it will die, might take a bit and I wouldn't want to hang out with the bear he will be pretty pissed.
You're correct, a guide in Montana decades ago left his horse and rifle with his client to search for a downed elk, while searching a mamma grizzly bear took offense to him coming so close to her cubs and charged him. Fortunately he was at the bottom of a rocky cliff and was able to push himself far enough into a crevice to keep from being mauled to death and emptied his .22 revolver into the bears face. The client eventually made it back to the base camp, a search party went out and found the guide alive and the bear dead. After that incident the minimum caliber allowed by a guide in Montana is a .357 magnum.

A .22 will kill larger animals, but you don't want to be around while you wait for some of them to die, or at least in a place they can reach you. Ask any game warden and they'll probably tell you that .22s are a favorite for whitetail deer poachers. I know the wardens around here tell me that.
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Old 06-06-2011, 03:51 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by Davo45 View Post

I believe many people get lethality and fight stopping ability confused. I don't care what caliber or bullet design a man or animal is shot with there is simply no such thing as instant "stopping power" unless the CNS is shut down. A .22 bullet is as capable of it as anything else. But the CNS is a small target and extremely hard to hit under stress The heart & lung are the next best targets because they're easier to hit, although it generally takes longer for these wounds to take the fight out of a man or animal especially if their instinctive survival reflex has kicked in.
Man-stopper is probably not an accurate term, but my use of it does not mean any less lethal. As I have instructed my nieces and nephews, never treat a 22 with any less respect as any other larger caliber because it will kill you just as dead.

I don't think we are off in our evaluations of the caliber.

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Old 06-06-2011, 11:34 PM   #43
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THanks for the feed back I am feeling a lot better about the 22 choice. Still going to pick up one more for sure.

Almost traded my 30/30 today for a crossbow. Just about ready to close the deal when my gut feeling told me not to. So looks like I will be keeping it and just putting it on the shelf for a while
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