Thanks for all the advice, I've seen the tech-sight sights before and they seem really good, but the're almost $60 and that's a lot for a 15 year-old. I really like the williams 5D sight, except I have to have my receiver drilled and tapped. My uncle has the stuff to do that but I'm kind of against the idea of drilling more holes in my receiver. I'm trying to find the williams sight that uses the existing scope base holes in the receiver on gunbroker.com and ebay, but I'm having very little success. Any other ideas? I guess I could just order one from Midway USA, but I like to see how cheap I can possibly something even if its just a few bucks cheaper, yea I know, I really am that cheap!