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RobertinNJ 11-30-2009 09:37 PM

Is old ammo safe? (for the gun)
 
Hi,

I have several bricks of Remington Thunderbolt 22 ammo. It seems pretty accurate in several rifles and a Ruger MKII pistol. Some of the boxes are over ten years old and the bullet heads now have a hard light gray (lead oxide ?) coating on the lead. This coating seems like it could be hard enough to abrade the bore of a gun as it feels little like fine sand. I have never heard of anyone mentioning this problem in the 20 years that I have been interested in shooting. Can anyone tell me if if is indeed going to damage a barrel?

Thanks!

Dr. Marneaus 12-01-2009 11:13 PM

All I know is that if something had a coating that felt like sand, I wouldnt be running it through my gun.

.22 is cheap enough to not risk it.

jcooper 12-01-2009 11:45 PM

Afriend of mine gave me a Kodiak .22 magnum once and a old box of shells. I think they had a 1 cent stamp on them. the first one I shot blew the case apart and also the ejector off the gun. It never was right again. A bolt action or single shot woyld probably be OK but I wouldnt use them in a semi automatic.

30-30remchester 12-02-2009 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jcooper (Post 192905)
Afriend of mine gave me a Kodiak .22 magnum once and a old box of shells. I think they had a 1 cent stamp on them. the first one I shot blew the case apart and also the ejector off the gun. It never was right again. A bolt action or single shot woyld probably be OK but I wouldnt use them in a semi automatic.

Very interesting event you had. It truly surprises me as I have shot 130 year old ammo with no ill effect. The 22 magnun is only 50 years old so the ammo couldnt be older than that. Do you still have the old box? What brand was it? Have any pics of old ammo?

jpattersonnh 12-02-2009 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 30-30remchester (Post 192976)
Very interesting event you had. It truly surprises me as I have shot 130 year old ammo with no ill effect. The 22 magnun is only 50 years old so the ammo couldnt be older than that. Do you still have the old box? What brand was it? Have any pics of old ammo?

I wonder if it is WRF ammo instead of WMR.

agoetz2005 12-02-2009 06:44 PM

lead oxide is not harder than steel in any sense.

It could also be dried lube (wax).

If you're worried, take some out of the box and rub them on a piece of flat stock. If you get anything that a simple wet rag and maybe some lead remover won't take off then you'll have your answer/

stalkingbear 12-02-2009 07:50 PM

If it was ME, I'd go ahead and shoot that .22LR ammo. At the most you might have to do a cleaning afterward.

agoetz2005 12-02-2009 08:08 PM

Agreed. When we shoot our endfields we shoot ammo headstamped 1898-1903 regularly with no ill effects. Some even have green bullets :)

UnderFire 12-02-2009 11:37 PM

With old ammo, the only problem I've had is failure to fire.
No Biggie, I'll cycle the slide and chamber another.

diggsbakes 12-03-2009 03:04 AM

I've shot old ammo in many different calibers and never had a problem except the occasional dud, but I can't see why anything other than a thorough cleaning would be required after using this ammo and that's only if its corrosive (soap and water).


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