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Old 02-03-2009, 05:33 AM   #1
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Just had a couple of threads going in 'general rifles'. I needed some help finding a rifle for a new shooter, and actually got straightened out about the calibre first of all

A .22lr with iron sights is what everybody agreed on. I've been looking around and got really interested in the CZ452 Lux. Can you give me some feedback on this model regarding quality, accuracy and durability?

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CZ452 is a very well made and accurate little rifle. I believe they are still making the actions out of steel, instead of aluminum, and their triggers are adjustable for weight without any special need for stoning or "custom" machining.

They run about $400 here in the States, but may be cheaper over where you are since they are imported here.

Nothing wrong with it as a good starting out little plinker for a young shooter, or someone who wants to practice long gun / bolt gun shooting before stepping up to a larger platform.

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A friend has one and he loves his. He's a marksman, so I respect his opinion.

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I have a CZ452 Lux, I have had it for several years. It is undoubtedly the most accurate rimfire I have ever owned or have ever come in contact with for the money, I would obviously highly recommend it to any adult size new shooter.

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Default CZ 452 Lux - Scope

The reason behind choosing the Lux model is because of it's iron sights. I think that will always be a fun option to have besides a scope. I'll start without one but eventually I can see myself upgrade to one.

What scope would you suggest for this rifle with general use for target shooting?

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Center Point Adventurer Class 4-16x40 for $79.98 at Walmart. Better than most scopes at twice the price...in fact, I've not found a better scope in it's class for under $400.

For a .22lr/.17hmr, .22WMR, it's bloody PERFECT!!

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I have never heard of Center Point Optics. Is it going to last though, because there is quite a price jump ... roughly a $200 price difference with other brands of scopes with the same features and strengths.

I'm happy to give it a shot. On their website they claim some of their optics to be able to withstand the reverse recoil of the most powerful air rifles which I'm also interested in at this point. So, I'll give it a go and see how it behaves, just curious to what the quality and thereby durability is of Center Point optics.

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The 452 is a nice rifle, I wouldn't compromise its accuracy potential by putting cheap Chinese glass on it. Read some of the comments here about Centerpoints not holding zero.

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For a little more check out the Mueller APV, it's been tried & proven. I have one on a 10/22 & another on a Savage Mk II.

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I have never heard of Center Point Optics. Is it going to last though, because there is quite a price jump ... roughly a $200 price difference with other brands of scopes with the same features and strengths.

I'm happy to give it a shot. On their website they claim some of their optics to be able to withstand the reverse recoil of the most powerful air rifles which I'm also interested in at this point. So, I'll give it a go and see how it behaves, just curious to what the quality and thereby durability is of Center Point optics.

I'm using one on a Marlin 25MN in .22 WMR. It has no problem holding zero...I put about a box a week thru it.

But I gotcher Zero Problems covered RIGHT HERE

The one thing I do heavily reccomend is that you discard the Included Rings and buy some Weaver Rings (preferably see-thru because you'll need the extra height). I originally used the included ones, but they have squishy material in 'em which leads to inaccuracy.

The other thing to watch out for is to Make Sure you UNLOCK the locking rings BEFORE making windage/elevation adjustments!!! LOCK the windage/elevation rings AFTER making the adjustment. If you try to make W/E adjustments while the rings are locked, YOU WILL STRIP THE ADJUSTERS and it will cause you to shoot wild groups. (Can't hold zero if you've stripped the guts, can ya?)

I had to teach a short course on Locking Rings on another site...Locking Rings on W/E knobs are a relatively new technology to most shooters and they frankly don't read the instructions...but for some odd reason female shooters have no problem reading & following the instructions...lol
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I've got a 452 American, no irons. It's a very good rifle if you pick the right ammo. Mine has a silencer on it and still is quite accurate. One reason I bought it is the barrel is pre-threaded.

Not as accurate as the TC Classic, however, it's accurate enough. Being a .22 Nut, I learn toward single shots for targets, tube magazines for plinking. Got some Martinis and a Kimber of Oregon Govt Model, none of which have scopes.

As for fairly cheap Chinese glass, for a 50 yard no-recoil rifle it's pretty good, in my experience. I've got it on my Hornet and for a fixed-scope (one sighted in at, say, 50 yards, and you don't have to readjust for different ranges) it's fine. A lot of scopes are made in China or Korea and have more expensive names on them.

But, were I famously rich, I'd put Zeiss on all my guns. Or at least a Bushnell Elite 4200.

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