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Old 02-09-2009, 02:51 PM   #11
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Big shreck came close.

The 4x-16x-40mm scope is great step in right direction because it has adjustable objective. A 4x-12x would work just as good, as long as it has adjustable objective. The reason for this is parallax. All scopes designed for use on centerfire rifles have parallax set at factory for 199-150 yards, whereas rimfire scopes are factory adjusted to be parallax free at 50 yards. Adjustable objectives compensate for that parallax setting.

It's damn HARD to glass bed a .22 with tubular magazine so forget that.

The bullet diameter has no affect on the accuracy of the type of rifling as long as it's within saami specs. The micro-groove rifling is nothing more than many shallow grooves, compared to 5-7 slightly deeper grooves.

What you need to do is grab 1 box of EVERY different kind of ammo you can lay your hands on. Select the most accurate load, then buy a BUNCH of it in that specific lot. Sort the ammo by CASE RIM THICKNESS-NOT bullet diameter. Sort all ammo to exact case rim thickness.

Clean your rifle THOROUGHLY before shooting for accuracy.
Good advice from all. I would like to add a couple of comments.

Let me start out by saying a model 60 is not a favorite rifle of mine. There are much better accuracy 22's out there if that is what your wanting.

So that being said, save yourself alot of grief and money and purchase another 22 with better accuracy quality. Bolt actions are best in a repeater, however there are some fine older single shots as well. If you feel the need for a semi-auto then buy your self a Ruger 10/22 (JMO) and add whatever you wish. The possibilities are endless? Well depending on your bank account?
You will never get the Model 60 to group one ragged hole groups consistantly, no matter what you do to it!
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Good advice from all. I would like to add a couple of comments.

Let me start out by saying a model 60 is not a favorite rifle of mine. There are much better accuracy 22's out there if that is what your wanting.

So that being said, save yourself alot of grief and money and purchase another 22 with better accuracy quality. Bolt actions are best in a repeater, however there are some fine older single shots as well. If you feel the need for a semi-auto then buy your self a Ruger 10/22 (JMO) and add whatever you wish. The possibilities are endless? Well depending on your bank account?
You will never get the Model 60 to group one ragged hole groups consistantly, no matter what you do to it!
i disagree my model 60 was the best rimfire ive owned so far. my remington 597 hopefully will blow that out of the water this summer when i get the proper weather to finely tune my scope in. thanks to google earth i found out last night that the area i was shootin my mod 60 was actually 54 yrds instead of the 25 i was thinking it was. so the model 60 can be made into a tack driver once the right glass is put on the rifle and you find the ammo it likes the most, mine loved the cci's mini's the best. just my .02
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Good advice from all. I would like to add a couple of comments.

Let me start out by saying a model 60 is not a favorite rifle of mine. There are much better accuracy 22's out there if that is what your wanting.

So that being said, save yourself alot of grief and money and purchase another 22 with better accuracy quality. Bolt actions are best in a repeater, however there are some fine older single shots as well. If you feel the need for a semi-auto then buy your self a Ruger 10/22 (JMO) and add whatever you wish. The possibilities are endless? Well depending on your bank account?
You will never get the Model 60 to group one ragged hole groups consistantly, no matter what you do to it!

A .22 with better accuracy sure as heck ain't the ruger 10/22. An Anshutz or Howa, yes, possibly even an AMT Lightning, but definitely NOT the Ruger with those crappy plastic triggers & questionable manufacturing. There's a reason people need so much aftermarket gear to "accurize" the 10/22, it's because the standard model sux. Voldquardtz makes millions a year manufacturing high-quality replacement 10/22 parts because the original are JUNK. I've got an old Squires-Bingham model 16 (currently known as ARMSCOR 1600) that outshoots 10/22's at the range every month...and IT is considered a Low-Quality gun made by a Low-Quality manufacturer. But it'll run rings around a standard 10/22 all day long.

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It's pretty funny you TRYING to say Ruger 10/22s are junk! I'll match MY 10/22s against your rifles anytime. I too have developed an intense dislike for Marlin/Glenfield model 60s over the 27+ years of running my own gunsmith shop myself. Sure they MAY be a tad more accurate out of box, but the simple fact that all those aftermarket parts exist prove the Ruger is superior design, and ultimately reliable on average. How many team challenges are won by people using ANYTHING other than 10/22s? And NO I'm NOT getting paid by Ruger in any way. You are correct about the 10/22s shipped within the last 6 months having plastic trigger housings.








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A .22 with better accuracy sure as heck ain't the ruger 10/22. An Anshutz or Howa, yes, possibly even an AMT Lightning, but definitely NOT the Ruger with those crappy plastic triggers & questionable manufacturing. There's a reason people need so much aftermarket gear to "accurize" the 10/22, it's because the standard model sux. Voldquardtz makes millions a year manufacturing high-quality replacement 10/22 parts because the original are JUNK. I've got an old Squires-Bingham model 16 (currently known as ARMSCOR 1600) that outshoots 10/22's at the range every month...and IT is considered a Low-Quality gun made by a Low-Quality manufacturer. But it'll run rings around a standard 10/22 all day long.

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I'm not too fond of the Glenfield's myself, but the Marlin 60 has proven itself quite nicely and has sold over a million more than any other .22lr rifle. The Ruger 10/22 is it's closest competition.

The 10/22's big bonuses is the availability of aftermarket hi-capacity magazines (which Obama & Pelosi are going to outlaw soon, along with the 10/22 itself) and the fact that by hand-manufacturing One part, you can turn a 10/22 into a full-auto carbine (which is totally illegal without a Class III license). I've got a 10/22 SS with a bull barrel...and it's an OK rifle, and it shoots well, but it hasn't given me the accuracy that I demand.

What I can't stomach is people who come onto a forum that specifically mentions TWO guns, and start pushing other products & downing the choices like this [quote]"save yourself alot of grief and money and purchase another 22 with better accuracy quality".[\quote] THAT peeved me off.

If the OP had wanted to know about 10/22's, he'd have asked. And from what I'm finding out at the range, the plastic trigger IS junk. It's just not wearing well in comparison to the original ones. Plastic just isn't made to handle thousands of trigger-pulls because it wears. So if one has to have a Ruger, get one with a metal trigger. VQ makes a great one.

There are other Ruger products I happily recommend (Vaquero, Blackhawk, etc), the 10/22 just isn't one I'd recommend over a Marlin 60. That would be like suggesting a Savage lever-action over the Mossberg lever-action. Finding anything more accurate than an NIB Marlin isn't possible at that price point, you have to move up to a much more expensive rifle like a Sako/Howa/Anshutz or a tricked-out Ruger(cost about as much) to see a marked improvement over what can be done with a properly set up NIB Marlin 60.

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