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celticpride2133 08-28-2012 04:10 AM

Marlin 795 Question?
 
I want to get a marlin 795, they are on sale at Dicks for 129.99. Do you think this is a good price or should I go hunting at the local pawn shops? Thanks

Axxe55 08-28-2012 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by celticpride2133 (Post 918429)
I want to get a marlin 795, they are on sale at Dicks for 129.99. Do you think this is a good price or should I go hunting at the local pawn shops? Thanks

i think it's a decent price, but check out the local pawn shops and LGS's too. you might get lucky and find a M795 or even a M60 which is the same rifle with the tubular magazine instead of the box magazine.

Jeff56 08-28-2012 08:40 PM

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a M795 or even a M60 which is the same rifle with the tubular magazine instead of the box magazine.
I don't mean to start something or argue or anything of the sort but there are several differences between the 795 and the 60 besides the type of mag they use. The only real important difference I've seen between the two has been the trigger guard and how it fits around the mag well on the 795. Right at the point where there is a cutout for the mag well the thickness of the tg is only about 1/8th inch thick in both directions. Add to that the fact that you have to twist the stock a bit to get it on the rifle when you are putting it back together and you have what has happened to me twice, a broken trigger guard. Marlin must have had a bunch of problems with this because the last time it took me 8 months to get a replacement.

But I still like the 795 a lot. I just know to be extremely careful about taking it apart now. And that's not the only part I've seen that's weak. I've also broke 2 firing pins in the first year I owned the gun and the LSHO doesn't work as well as it should.

So personally I think the 60 is a better build gun. Again I do like my 795. It's so light and accurate it's amazing and I like swapping mags in a hurry when I need to do that. But if I had to pick one rifle it would be a 60.

That is a decent price on a 795 though, getting back to the OP's question. It's too bad you weren't looking a year ago when the price was about $125 and there was a $20 rebate. I see pawn shops selling the 795 for a lot more than they cost new a year ago. That isn't so bad now but they did it back then when you could buy a new one for less than a used one. That wasn't too cool.

Axxe55 08-28-2012 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff56 (Post 919095)
I don't mean to start something or argue or anything of the sort but there are several differences between the 795 and the 60 besides the type of mag they use. The only real important difference I've seen between the two has been the trigger guard and how it fits around the mag well on the 795. Right at the point where there is a cutout for the mag well the thickness of the tg is only about 1/8th inch thick in both directions. Add to that the fact that you have to twist the stock a bit to get it on the rifle when you are putting it back together and you have what has happened to me twice, a broken trigger guard. Marlin must have had a bunch of problems with this because the last time it took me 8 months to get a replacement.

But I still like the 795 a lot. I just know to be extremely careful about taking it apart now. And that's not the only part I've seen that's weak. I've also broke 2 firing pins in the first year I owned the gun and the LSHO doesn't work as well as it should.

So personally I think the 60 is a better build gun. Again I do like my 795. It's so light and accurate it's amazing and I like swapping mags in a hurry when I need to do that. But if I had to pick one rifle it would be a 60.

That is a decent price on a 795 though, getting back to the OP's question. It's too bad you weren't looking a year ago when the price was about $125 and there was a $20 rebate. I see pawn shops selling the 795 for a lot more than they cost new a year ago. That isn't so bad now but they did it back then when you could buy a new one for less than a used one. That wasn't too cool.

the M60 and the M795 use a lot of the same parts and the actions are almost identical. Boyd's Gunstocks sells the same stock for the M60 and the M795. on the 795 you open up the bottom for the box magazine and on the 60 you open up the channel below the barrel for the tube magazine. go to Numrich's website and pull up the schematics on both and you will see that both share a lot of the same parts.

Jeff56 08-30-2012 05:27 AM

I know they share some parts. I have both. I also know there are several parts that aren't the same and some of them aren't as good on the 795.

big shrek 08-30-2012 12:05 PM

DIP has the resolution to the plastic Trigger Guard problem...with the Combo trigger/guard packs ;)
http://www.diproductsinc.com/Products.aspx?CAT=3603

I'd rather have billet aluminium than plastic anyday ;)

Hey, its a $129 rifle, you ain't gonna get the hardcore stuff on it unless you pay extra for it!!


On the OLD Egg-shaped trigger guards, they were a direct switch for the Marlin 70 & 989 & 995 (predecessors of the 795)

Here you can see the old style t/g on a 60 (gold), and the 989M2, (note the magwell, they put an M60 trigger guard on
and a metal cover was added on top of the t/g), then the modern square-back DIP Pink t/g on my Wifey's rifle.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/9...e/gedc0078.jpg

Pink T/G also available from DIP & Boyd's Natural thumbhole stock (stained pink by me)...make the wife happy ;)
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/9...e/gedc0011.jpg

Oh, yeah, the old-style Egg-shaped T/G are NOT compatable with the modern square-backs, but there is a saving grace...
so if you've got an old 60 or 99, and want to put a new 60 stock on it, you get a DIP trigger guard combo and its a drop-in!!

If you want to put an old stock on a new 60, you have to drill a hole for the LSHO lever,
and figure out where you want to cut a slot for the LSHO in the old T/G, or inlet a New Style T/G in there...
but it leaves a big hole that needs to be filled in where the egg-part of the old guard went...and looks rough...
dude on RFC just did one...fortunately you can't see the mod unless its upside down, but that'd drive me NUTS!!

Axxe55 08-30-2012 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff56 (Post 921089)
I know they share some parts. I have both. I also know there are several parts that aren't the same and some of them aren't as good on the 795.

the basic action are the same with the feed systems being different. also th M60 has been in production since 1960 and there have been production changes over the years. mine was made in the very early 1980's, about 81 or 82, and it has the Glenfield Marlin rollmark, no LSHO feature, 21" barrel and an 18 round tube on it.

big shrek 08-30-2012 01:25 PM

Almost forgot, the years to avoid are 2005-2011...worst Marlins ever due to disgruntled workers...
and 2010/2011 due to new mfr'ing lines and new workers were a bit spotty in QC...
http://www.wisnersinc.com/additional_info/marlindatecode.htm

Subtract 100 from the first two numbers to get the date from any Marlin made after 1973 ;)

So a 2005 would be an 95, and a 2011 would be an 89, anything including/in between those,
inspect VERY carefully before purchase!!

For a 60 or 795 from 2005-2011, you look for off-spec accessory rail (scope rail), rough bolt (polish out),
bad inletting, and any other oddities you would normally look for when buying a gun from an unknown source...
I treat all firearms as suspect, as I'm a bit OCD, so I go over 'em like a White-Glove Armourer's Inspection anyway ;)
Its a good habit to get into!!

I've owned a 2005 Marlin 60, it had the rail issue and the bolt needed polishing...but wasn't as precise as my other Marlins,
so it got traded off...my 2010 Marlin 795 also had the rail issue and a rough bolt, so filing/polishing was in order...
Bearing in mind these are $150 or less rifles, a little work by the End-User is expected for the best results...
Basically what you've got in a cheap Marlin is an Olympic Barrel without the benefits of the extra hand-fitting & bedding...
so for about 8 hours of your time (2 hours after you get used to fixing 'em), they can look as good as they shoot ;)

The 3/8 accessory rail issue has been solved since Dec 2011, so all 2012 60/795's are good on that issue,
along with having better work done on the bolts & inletting...new MFR'ing lines take time to get squared away...
if you measure the rail with a Micrometer, you should get a .43 measurement...if .44-47, its out of spec...
the good news is it is a fast fix, you take a triangle file, put electric tape on one side and file the rail on each side until .43,
the tape on the bottom of the file prevents scratching up the reciever finish...kinda important ;)

The best 2010/2011 was the 60 DLX/60 DL anniversary models, they got QC'd to heck & back due to being a special edition ;)
The DLX was about a step above the DL as well...very nicely done!!!


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