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Old 03-18-2009, 06:45 PM   #21
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I ain't never seen a marlin that would shoot with a Ruger let alone a Remington. The microgrove barrel is hookie. My mom had a 39a with it and about 100 rounds the accuracy was gone and done.

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Old 03-20-2009, 02:57 AM   #22
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That sounds like the biggest load of horsehockey I've run across since a tractor-trailer load of it tipped over on I-10.

Not just because the Marlin lever-action .22's have outsold the Ruger 10/22 by over 12 million....and in fact hold the current record for most lever actions sold by any rifle manufacturer.

Not just because the Marlin Model 60 has outsold the 10/22 by over 5 million. Possibly due to the out-of-the box accuracy & lower prices that Ruger could never hope to equal.

Not just because Marlin put Winchester out of the rifle business with their lever-actions...and currently only Mossberg comes anywhere close to the quality of Marlin in a lever-action, yet nowhere near the numbers sold.

And in case you missed the news blurbs last year...Remington bought Marlin so they could start using the Micro-Groove technology & other Marlin Methods to improve their line of sub-standard shooters. Taken a look at the New XL-7 yet?? Offers some of the best Marlin & Remington technology so far...and there's more to come!


Ruger currently makes the only two rifles ever given a bad review by Field & Stream magazine...the 10/22 & 77/22.

And heck, what other rifle do you immediately have to throw away the trigger, barrel, & stock when you get home & order a new ones so that you can shoot sub-moa??? The 10/22. Most Marlin's do it straight out of the box.

I'd happily trade my 10/22 stainless for a 39a, does yer mom still have it?

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Old 03-20-2009, 04:54 AM   #23
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I agree big shrek, my FIL has an old bolt action Marlin .22 rifle that has a mag tube like a pump shotgun. He loves it and has told me before that he wouldn't trade it for a brand new rifle unless it was a Marlin. He has killed more rabbit, squirrel, raccoons, stray cats and dogs and deer (yes I said deer) than you could haul on 50 semi-trucks. It is the most accurate .22 rifle I have ever fired and seen. He has won shooting matches with it and it's completely factory.

When I get some money together I'm gonna buy a Marlin bolt-action in .22 MAG.

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Remington didn't buy crap.

Remington was bought by Cherybus Marlin was bought by cherrybus Bushmaster was bought by OMG CHerrybus.

So your statement that Remington bought marlin just to use their microgrove rifling is plain BS and horse hukky. You show me a press release from Remington signed by the CEO that states Remington is buying Marlin to use the microgrove on their rifles?

WOW I ain't seen no Remingtons comming out with it yet? It ain't that hard to get barrels for that microgrove.

To set matters stright I never said marlin didn't make a good lever gun. I just said the microgrove is nothing to write home about.

I am set to get quite a collection of Marlin levers one of which is a LNIB 2 digit serial 45-70 1885. It has seen 60 rounds of ammo in its entire life. I think marlin lever guns are now and always have been better quality than Winchesters.

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Micro-Groove rifling, when combined with the proper bullet, is devestatingly accurate. A standard Marlin .22lr with a Micro-groove barrel is just as accurate (if not more) as any bull-barrel out there. The fun part is shooting every type of ammo out there to find out which bullet works best. Once you find the proper combination, sub-moa groups are a regular occurance.

What is difficult for many is finding the patience to find out which ammo works best...because using too skinny a bullet results in wild groups. One has to shoot thru a whole box of ammo to test it...recording the results as they go. I went thru 12 different boxes of 100 rounds over several days on each of my Marlins...I do the same with the other rifles/pistols as well...to find the BEST combination of weapon and round. Absolutely NONE of them like Remington Golden bulk or Federal bulk ammo.

Using the written information and micrometer readings, I then formulate my reloads for centerfire weapons, and buy cases of the favored rimfire ammo for the rimfires

What makes the Micro-Groove rifling work is simply that there are more lands & grooves (16 grooves) to grip the bullet as it passes thru the barrel. MCG also causes less bullet distortion/bullet jacket distortion and a better Gas seal which gives greater accuracy.


Now oddly, I was playing around with my Model 99-G this weekend, which was pre-Micro-Groove...and shot predominately quarter-sized groups at 25 yards & quite a few dime & cloverleaf groups using CCI ammo & a Tasco 3x9 scope. Even started a smiley-face group at one point... Being a precise shooter helps, no matter what the weapon.


After owning quite a few Marlins, Remingtons, Rugers, Winchesters, a Savage, a Squires-Bingham Model 16 (Armscor 1600 now) and Calico M-100 & M110 .22's...Marlin has far & away come out the winner of the .22LR accuracy race (also the .22WMR). Ruger I consider to be ONE step above a Savage in accuracy...but just barely, and only IF you set it up right...I also consider Ruger to be BELOW Savage in reliability. I can outshoot the Ruger's & Savage with my Calico M-100 all day long, and Calico isn't really known for their accuracy, just their high capacity. I do believe that mating the proper ammo to the proper weapon is extremely important.

I also HATE to replace parts on a new gun...Ruger's been peeving me off for a long time, starting with their Vaquero. Lousiest trigger in the business. Heck, Ruger's FAMOUS for lousy triggers in just about everything they've ever put out. The standard process on a New Ruger (pistol or rifle) is to Fix the trigger, tune the action, and replace all the springs after you get it home. That's kinda sad, but I do the same thing to old pre-1990 Taurus revolvers...at least they have the excuse of being OLD. Being forced to work on a brand new gun just isn't what I have in mind...I prefer to take it out of the box, sight it in, find it's favorite ammo, and enjoy.

The only thing that I consider even close to a Marlin for .22lr accuracy & reliability are the CZ's. They'll give you a run for your money...but at half the price, Marlin wins that race as well. Absolutely nothing I like better than outshooting a CZ owner and having them wander over to see what I was using...shocks the heck out of them

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I agree big shrek, my FIL has an old bolt action Marlin .22 rifle that has a mag tube like a pump shotgun. He loves it and has told me before that he wouldn't trade it for a brand new rifle unless it was a Marlin. He has killed more rabbit, squirrel, raccoons, stray cats and dogs and deer (yes I said deer) than you could haul on 50 semi-trucks. It is the most accurate .22 rifle I have ever fired and seen. He has won shooting matches with it and it's completely factory.

When I get some money together I'm gonna buy a Marlin bolt-action in .22 MAG.
May I suggest the 982VS or 982VS-CV? .22WMR for around $249-269 (depending on local gunshop deals) w/ synthetic stock, drilled & tapped for scope & Heavy Target Barrel


And yeah, folks have been using .22's to kill deer since the early 1900's...but it's usually against the law these days in most places. Don't get caught...as they say

I drop coyotes & raccoons at up to 150yds with my .22WMR with no issues at all. The rabbits are slowly learning not to hang out in my garden
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Hey guys right now I have a ss rosi pump .22 its a fun little gun and actually very accurate. But I am wanting to get a new .22 I have had this one since I can remeber. I am wanting something low in price (hopefully under 300) preferably semi auto but a bolt would be fine with a bull barrel. I have found a couplethat I like but figure I better ask for opions before I pull the trigger on something. I like the winchester wildcat and the savage mark ll with a target barrel. Any others I should take a look at? Thanks
i aswell am in the same category as you, but for 300 or under is not too much too choose from. i want a .223 or a .270 but a good rifle for under 3 is hard to get.
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