[diggsbakes]

I shot 10/22s for years with out ever needing (or even knowing of) an add-on, other than a scope that is. The 10/22 is a great little rifle, especially if you've spent time with one.

As for the Marlin. I do clean mine regularly, but usually only from the chamber. I might fully disassemble a couple times a year at most.

[Makarov]

well i was gonna suggest the 10/22...but a good bolt gun is the Cz-452 although Im not sure if its under 300 bucks

[marlas1too]

a marlin mod.25 bolt or a savage mark 2 are very good 22 rifles and good shooters too

[big shrek]

Originally Posted by Centerfire

Why do you not like the 10-22?

I made the mistake of buying a Ruger K10/22. Never have I been more peeved off at a "Target model" weapon.

It got sent back to Ruger, they sent it back and said that it was "Within Tolerances"...I'm sorry, but 2" groups at 50 yards out of a Target Model Rifle SUCKS. So instead of shoving it up Bill Ruger's wazoo, I traded it for a 1981 Yamaha XS 400 motorcycle. I got the better end of that trade...even with a carb rebuild

Volquartzen makes a far better 10/22 than Ruger ever could hope to.
So if you really want a properly working 10/22, either make one from parts gotten from OTHER mfr's than Ruger...or buy a Volquartzen whole.

Mind you, after having two Ruger Vaquero's for several years and having many headaches with them (triggers, timing, etc), after the 10/22 debacle, I traded them off with some cash for a pair of Colts for my S.A.S.S. needs...and I've never been happier

Ruger has always had sucky triggers...that's why there is a huge aftermarket for those for ANY rifle or pistol they make. And some MFR's are well known for sucky triggers as well. But show me some MFR's who have folks making everything for a given product...and the aftermaket suppliers make BETTER products than the Original MFR...

The only other weapons that get that kind of aftermarket attention are Military Use...AK/AR/1911...

[stalkingbear]

And exactly how many 10/22s have you personally owned? I understand you're in love with Marlin/Glenfield model 60, and there's nothing wrong with that, but you don't have to go badmouthing a brand/model you apparently don't know much about. It seems every time you post (and have the opportunity) you're badmouthing Rugers in this forum.

I see now you've owned 1 10/22 by your admission. I've owned several dozen and have NEVER had 1 that shot so poorly as you describe.

Originally Posted by big shrek

Speaks more to the inadequecy of the original weapon...to me.

Especially since you can build a better 10/22 if you NEVER put any Ruger parts into it in the first palce...Volquartzen has made a fortune out of this fact.

[skullcrusher]

Originally Posted by big shrek

I made the mistake of buying a Ruger K10/22. Never have I been more peeved off at a "Target model" weapon.

It got sent back to Ruger, they sent it back and said that it was "Within Tolerances"...I'm sorry, but 2" groups at 50 yards out of a Target Model Rifle SUCKS. So instead of shoving it up Bill Ruger's wazoo, I traded it for a 1981 Yamaha XS 400 motorcycle. I got the better end of that trade...even with a carb rebuild

Volquartzen makes a far better 10/22 than Ruger ever could hope to.
So if you really want a properly working 10/22, either make one from parts gotten from OTHER mfr's than Ruger...or buy a Volquartzen whole.

Mind you, after having two Ruger Vaquero's for several years and having many headaches with them (triggers, timing, etc), after the 10/22 debacle, I traded them off with some cash for a pair of Colts for my S.A.S.S. needs...and I've never been happier

Ruger has always had sucky triggers...that's why there is a huge aftermarket for those for ANY rifle or pistol they make. And some MFR's are well known for sucky triggers as well. But show me some MFR's who have folks making everything for a given product...and the aftermaket suppliers make BETTER products than the Original MFR...

The only other weapons that get that kind of aftermarket attention are Military Use...AK/AR/1911...

When any product gets a ton of aftermarket attention (as you put it) it means that there is a huge base of owners out there. I've never seen a stock 10/22 that did not shoot just fine out of the box. For as bad as you say they are, I am wondering if you just have trouble shooting. I suggest you trade all of your firearms for motorcycles and just deal with that.

Seriously, I suspect you thought you could get a tack driver and one hole shooter from a $200 rifle without having to do anything to it. That is fine. To each their own. It does seem like you just want to bad mouth Ruger. I doubt you have actually owned any and you just want to plug the mfrs you like.

This is coming from a guy who does not own any Rugers. I've shot a bunch of them, and I would buy one in a heartbeat if I needed one. Stick to what you really know lest you get called on it.

[willshoum]

I love my 1976 Glenfield. I was the one that let things go to the extreme that caused all the problemos. The older made rifles are a dream to shoot if they are acurate to start with and have been well taken care of. I shoot my fathers cooey made in the 40"s every wk. And it will shoot the wings off a gnat at 50 yrds. I won't Bad mouth the Manufacturer, It's just that I hate the guns that are not tube fed. I'm not shooting to hurry up and reload and carry more mags. If you buy a 22 LR. make sure you are buying it for the purpose intended. If you want a 22 that will take every thing that you can throw at it with out a scope, look at the cooey bolt. If it's made the same as the old Model you won't be dissapointed. Wills in da Swamp In La. One Shot One Kill.........GOD BLESS OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN THE ARMED SERVICES

[stalkingbear]

The bottom line is that just about any .22 will serve the OP well. I just get tired of the brand bashing by someone that has had extremely limited experience with that particular brand. In my 28 years of working on guns I've worked on them all, and owned quite a few as well.

[Shihan]

I will tell you from experience, I have never shot a 10/22 that performed any better than that of Stalkingbear's. His Ruger was a sight to behold and for the trigger, I have no words.
This is the Target RugerShootinGal shot with Bear's 10/22, and she is not experienced with rifles at all. But as you can see, That 10/22 shoots flawlessly.

[diggsbakes]

Originally Posted by big shrek

I made the mistake of buying a Ruger K10/22. Never have I been more peeved off at a "Target model" weapon.

It got sent back to Ruger, they sent it back and said that it was "Within Tolerances"...

Hey Shrek, are you sure its not your shooting that's giving you 2" groups rather than the gun??? I get groups better than that with my Winchester model 270, open sights, quick action and semi-rested.

It's really a stretch to believe a 10/22 shoots that poorly. I've had them need some adjustment, but nothing near what you describe.