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Old 09-30-2011, 12:16 PM   #21
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I have a 1942 Remington 512 that my Dad gave to me when I was 10 y.o. as my first gun. It's awesomely accurate even at 69 y.o. If you can find one of them in a pawn shop or Garage Sale, they go for $150-$200 if they are in really good shape.

My old eyes needed some help, so I mounted a modern scope on it a couple of years ago and have been very happy with the way it shoots with the scope. I can easily get nickle sized groups at 50 yards with Fed. 550 Bulk Box ammo.

These guns are all steel and very rugged.
snakedriver, i think i saw one of these last weekend at the gun shop that i do a lot of business with. not for sure it was a remington, but it looked very much like yours. it was a bolt action 22 with the tubular magazine. i may have to look at it closer next week when i go back to pick up my pistol. nice looking gun for it's age.
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For the money a Marlin is hard to beat. I like the Savage too, but not a fan of their mag design. The CZ 452 American is at the top of the list, but a bit pricey.

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snakedriver, i think i saw one of these last weekend at the gun shop that i do a lot of business with. not for sure it was a remington, but it looked very much like yours. it was a bolt action 22 with the tubular magazine. i may have to look at it closer next week when i go back to pick up my pistol. nice looking gun for it's age.
Another advantage of the older models of .22 rifles is that they will feed and shoot the .22 short, long & long rifle cartidges. My long barreled old Remington sounds like a pellet gun when it shoots shorts. I believe some of the newer bolt action .22's will also shoot shorts, but I don't know which ones.
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Of course, there is also the old axiom of going inexpensively, but reliably, first...
learn how to do all the necessary things like bedding/pillar bedding, trigger jobs, scope mounting, on the cheap...

Its why Chevy sells millions...lol

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A .22 bolt action will shoot any of the .22 configurations available, except of course the .22MRF which has a longer case and a .224 diameter. The chamber might need cleaning if you fed it shorts for a 1000 rounds or so, or the L/LR cartridges might stick on ejection. So much for that.

The only other thing, I would consider in a SHTF situation is a little more firepower. Bolts are slow, generally a 10 shot clip; and very few new tube feeds with more ammo. So, take a look at the Henry H001 lever action. Walmart can get you one for $250-270 or so. 15 LRs, about 17-18 longs, and close to 20 shorts. All one, or mixed up ammo, they all feed right through the slickest lever action this side of snot on a door knob. Ten rounds covered by a quarter at 24 yd.s all day long if you pay attention to what you are doing.

If you do find one of the older Remington 5-teens [Any Mdl 5xx}, as they call them, for under $200, snap it up. To many collectors out there have driven the prices way up except in the most dumb LGSs.

























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For the money a Marlin is hard to beat. I like the Savage too, but not a fan of their mag design. The CZ 452 American is at the top of the list, but a bit pricey.
I have a Savage Mark 2. I love the trigger (not an accutrigger) and reliability, but overall the mags are ok. They're nothing exceptional, but they do get the job done. And the marlin is a really good gun as well. I'm a big fan of the tube magazine, and the marlin bolt action with the tube (I forget the model) gives you the option to load .22 s,l,or lr.
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I have a CZ 453 American (essentially the same as a 452 American but with a much better trigger), I have 4 Marlins including a 925 (and none of them compete with my best shooters - they're great for the money and they're really great if you want a semi-auto but the 925 can't hold a candle to my CZ), I have an old Stevens single shot that is amazingly accurate after 60 years of use (and will likely keep working another 60 years because it has a bare minimum of moving parts and single shots are stiffer) and I have a Savage MkIIBTV which is my most accurate shooter by a considerable margin. It cost about $200 less than the CZ and the CZ shoots great and looks great but the Savage is clearly the most accurate. But the Savage is very picky about ammo. It won't shoot for beans with bulk ammo except it does ok with CCI SV. It shoots Wolf great though and that's about it. I've put Tenex through it and the cheapest stuff available through it and Wolf wins hands down.

All of my .22's have their good features. It just depends on what you want in a rifle. The Marlins are the best bargains and the new XT line of Marlins has a trigger that is very much like the Savage AccuTrigger only with a lighter pull. I haven't shot one though. I've just pulled a trigger. I will get one soon. For $200 I expect it to be an excellent rifle. The CZ is probably more consistent than my Savage but when the Savage gets going it will blow the CZ away. Both shoot extremely well to be honest. But the Savage is really exceptional. I won about 10 out of 12 rimfire competitions on another board with that rifle but the last one I won I shot with the CZ.

The CZ looks better but not by a whole lot and the finish on the CZ is easily banged up IMO. The laminated stock on the Savage is much more durable IMO even if the CZ does have a beautiful walnut stock. It is a beautiful rifle but so is my Marlin 60SS. I also have a Marlin 795 which is the cheapest way to get the job done today. I love that rifle. It's light as a feather and shoots like a dream. I've shot groups of under .4" at 90 yards with my Marlin 60SS though and for a semi-auto that's exceptional. But the Savage and the Stevens and the CZ are more consistently accurate. But then we're comparing semi-autos with bolt action rifles. My old Marlin 60 has about 150,000 rounds through it and is still kicking. I messed up a spring cleaning it about a year ago and it hasn't been right since though. But that was my fault and my very talented gunsmith couldn't get it going right either. It's just about worn out really. That's why I bought a new one two years ago.

There are countless other rifles that shoot very well around. Sako makes an excellent rifle. Anschutz makes fabulous rifles. Cooper, Kimber, T/C, etc. etc. etc.. all make great rifles. And there's the rock solid classics like the Remington 40X which can still be bought if you look hard enough.

I'd say buy what you like and if it doesn't suit you buy another one. You'll probably end up buying more even if you do like the first one. That's just how it goes with a gun monkey on your back.

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jeff56 has some excellent advise on this. it comes down to how much you are willing to spend. there are some very good choices for not a lot of money and some really nice one if you want to spend a lot of money.

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My SHTF scenario is based on hurricanes(live near the coast). We have a bunch of ducks around and if times get tough a bolt action .22 with shorts will be perfect for urban environments.

For SHTF a bolt action with subsonic rounds would be perfect for low key hunting. I think a nice bug loadout would be a folded sub 2000 for in .40 for defense/medium game(in a pinch) and a bolt action .22 for hunting small game.

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You can't go wrong w/ a .22 bolt action. You can get an older rifle for very short $. They never seem to wear out.

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