[fatmidgets]

Originally Posted by falcon11player

Ok so no light....but I am getting the laser no matter what....the laws are.....ummm I'm just looking for a simple rifle nothing fancy...caliber .22 or .23

For deer hunting, the stopping power is debatable. They also might not be ethical depending on where you live. I would recommend at LEAST a .243.

[theropinfool]

I can't think of why a laser would be useful for deer hunting... But I'm a western muley guy. 200 yards is a close shot, and I don't think most lasers go that far... $400? You can get a Howa rifle with a decent asian (nikko-sterling) scope for $500 here in Utah... Haven't bought any guns out of state, cant imagine too big a price difference. I'd look real hard at a 30-06, not too much recoil, take most north American game (wouldn't recommend it for a grizzly)...

[trip286]

Originally Posted by falcon11player

Ok so no light....but I am getting the laser no matter what....the laws are.....ummm I'm just looking for a simple rifle nothing fancy...caliber .22 or .23

Originally Posted by fatmidgets

For deer hunting, the stopping power is debatable. They also might not be ethical depending on where you live. I would recommend at LEAST a .243.

Ditto this. A .22 CAN take a deer. Does it mean that should be your go to hunting rifle? Hell no. .243 should be about the minimum you need to go.

A .308 is also a very mild recoiling rifle, plentiful ammo, not too bad on price of ammo, and there are many scoped package rifles on the market in your price range. Savage axis comes to mind, as well as the weatherby vanguard. These can come equipped with a scope of good quality already mounted and factory sighted.

I really, REALLY, URGE you, please check into your local game laws. You could have caliber restrictions, action type restrictions, ammo restrictions, equipment restrictions (laser may not be legal in your area), and magazine capacity restrictions.

[therhino]

Please, please don't shoot deer with a .22LR. Unless you're close enough to beat it to death with the rifle butt, shooting at it with a round that small will just injure or maim the animal unless you pull off an absolute pinpoint shot. Skilled hunters use the correct tools for the job, and seek to avoid needless suffering by their prey. Hunting deer with a .22 fits none of those bills.

[Cattledog]

Originally Posted by therhino

Skilled hunters use the correct tools for the job, and seek to avoid needless suffering by their prey. Hunting deer with a .22 fits none of those bills.

Ditto that, and even if the ethics don't bother you think of the fact that deer can and will run like hell went shot. They can cover ground crazy fast even while they're bleeding out. I know a hunter that still had to hike a couple miles into a ravine to retrieve a buck that was shot with a 30-06.

[falcon11player]

Lol ok well .22 is out I guess I will go with .308....anymore suggestions ppl?

[Georgiahunter]

Originally Posted by falcon11player

Lol ok well .22 is out I guess I will go with .308....anymore suggestions ppl?

Are you going hunting alone or with a buddy? I would recommend a hunter's safety course. (Here in GA it's required) No offense but it seems someone who is going deer hunting should look into things before asking questions like these. I'm not against asking questions, but a little research goes a long way. That being said a .308 is a good choice. I got a Savage model 111 rifle scope combo for $400. Will probably upgrade the scope one day, but for now it's fine.

[TooStrongTerry]

Yeah...hunting isn't MW3...all these attachments your talking about (legal or not; in your eyes) just weigh down your firearm. This isn't just park your truck and shoot...its walking far distances to find a position of maximum probability of seeing a deer. It makes a difference. Some states like NY don't have restrictions on caliber...but you can't shoot from a rimfire rifle. So. 22s are out of the question for big game. And...regardless if you care about laws...you'll care when your posting bail for illegally killing a deer. So check the regulations.

[falcon11player]

Ok Thanks and yeah a few buddies invited me to go with them when deer season comes back around.....You have to start somewhere so Just asking around...

[falcon11player]

And im ordering the rifle offline...any suggestions on a website to fine one...reply with a link please