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weaponsetc. 05-21-2007 04:34 PM

CZ 452 Varment or Ruger M77-22?
 
I am trying to decide between a CZ 452 Varment or Ruger M77-22 mag. Any advice?

Dgunsmith 05-21-2007 08:20 PM

Rifle Choice:
 
The CZ will out-shoot the Ruger ALL DAY Long !

If you want to shoot varmints...consider changing calibers to 17HMR...shoots farther, flatter and doesnt bounce like 22mags.

Great for shooting and knowing where your bullets are going.

Otherwise...CZ .22 mag is very accurate..may need a little trigger work, but a superior rifle . JMHO

stalkingbear 09-14-2007 02:48 PM

cz vs ruger
 
As dgun said,the cz will usually shoot better out of box,but there is a truckload of upgrades on market available for the ruger 77-22. If you choose the cz,get the later 1 that has single set trigger.
Comparing the .17hmr to the .22mag,when the .17hmr came out I extensively tested it and found it pretty well useless EXCEPT for small varmits and informal plinking. Before yall get hot-please me explain. Yes,it's accurate and fast but not suited to hunting larger varmits such as coyotes.
I experienced a lot of yotes ang groundhogs get away wounded only to die somewhat later due to the tiny bullet lacking energy and penetration.
For small edible game,it's too explosive except for headshots. They may have since then came out with better bullets for small game.
For plinking and small game shooting,the .22lr is without peer-especially considering cost of ammo. My personal choice is the .22 mag. It has acceptable accuracy in a good rifle,added range and punch to quickly dispatch the bigger varmits,and I've found that a .22 mag solid(fmj)bullet produces exact same wound channel as a .22lr hvhp.













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Originally Posted by Dgunsmith (Post 1743)
The CZ will out-shoot the Ruger ALL DAY Long !

If you want to shoot varmints...consider changing calibers to 17HMR...shoots farther, flatter and doesnt bounce like 22mags.

Great for shooting and knowing where your bullets are going.

Otherwise...CZ .22 mag is very accurate..may need a little trigger work, but a superior rifle . JMHO


stiles 12-12-2007 05:40 PM

go for the CZ you will not look back over the Ruger

101 01-10-2008 02:10 AM

I have been very happy with my CZ 452 American in LH.

Duck 01-10-2008 03:37 AM

Stalkingbear, you are the second gunsmith that I've heard say that about the .17HMR. I was thinking about buying one, but my granddad (the other gunsmith) said that the .22 Mag will do anything the .17 does but better.

Righteous 01-10-2008 08:22 PM

+1 for the CZ


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