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Old 07-24-2013, 11:16 PM   #21
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OP, go to Rimfire Central, and ask your questions in the CZ forum. I also agree with JONM, check out Savage.
I have a CZ 453, nice gun, and it's got scope rings with see-through bases. (Made by Weaver) CZ makes guns with sights, if they also have dovetails on them, (I'm not sure), you might be able to add one of these scope ring sets and be good to go.

OR, doesn't somebody make add-on irons that bolt onto the dovetails? again, not sure about the far end of the barrel......

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The heavier barrel takes longer to heat up, but then also takes longer to cool down. With a 22LR, I wouldn't worry to much about that. But a thicker heavier barrel is more stable than a thinner barrel, yes, do to the shell speeding down the barrel and causing harmonics =(vibrations).

Also a heavier gun will not 'buck' in the wind, or move as easily with you as your heart beats and your lungs exhale/inhale. It is one reason why olympic shooters wear 80 pound 'suits'. But if you plan on hiking with it, a heavier gun can have its drawbacks too.
Does seem that the heavier barrel has more pros than con's then yes....if you take out the weight factor. I'm 6'2 and in pretty good shape so dont think the weight would be too much of a factor carrying it. Checked quickly on the CZ ight between 455 lux and varmint and its 6.1 > 7.1 pounds.

Now then......lets say the varmint for a second, there is the varmint, and the varmint SST. Whats the difference?!?

One thing is for sure, i dont like the UGLY varmint evolution!
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The Lux is a beautiful rifle and is designed for iron sights. CZ uses a grooved receiver for mounting a scope. It is a pretty simple off and on if you witness the mounts so you get them in the same place every time. With a scope the Lux has a little too much drop in the heel for a proper cheek weld but you can get a simple leather removable cheek rest. The 455 has the ability to change barrels and can be had with more than one caliber. You might consider a 22lr and a 22 magnum or 17HMR. I have a 452 American in 22lr and am quite happy with it. I have not handled the 455 so I can not tell you the difference. It seems the 455 has more going for it in options.

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Your telling me! I was 18, bright eyed and bushy tailed yesterday! Now i have moved half way across the world, im getting married, having a little one, and buying guns! Im very aware of how its flying by me almost!

Spot on probably is asking too much your right........ way this is going, CZ will be getting a double sale out of me :-)

"good enough" would be perfect! Nothing less!

So, the heavier barrel is ''theoretically'' more accurate......you sound unsure/like you disagree???
A serviceable heavy match barrel will shoot very well, no doubt. That's not to say a less heavy design won't shoot brilliantly too. Other factors come into play as well. For instance, ammo that a gun "doesn't like" will offset hundreds of extra dollars spent on match grade accuracy.
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My 452 American 22lr is pretty accurate with no modifications. It is not going to compete with a $2000 Anshutz with a $1000 scope but it is capable of head shots on squirrels at 50 yards and that is with Mini Mags. You could run the 22lr barrel with irons and put the scope and cheek rest on with the 17hmr or 22 mag barrel. That way the scope would not have to be readjusted for the barrel change.

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OR, doesn't somebody make add-on irons that bolt onto the dovetails? again, not sure about the far end of the barrel......
Several companies make the dovetail mounts, they just have to make sure they are for an 11mm dovetail, or they won't be able to tighten down well.
BKL makes some nice ones that are a of good quality, and won't break the bank. BKL makes parts for airsoft guns, but people tend to use their mounts for CZ,s on the CZ forum
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Um...when you say you moved across the pond...exactly where did you go??

If you moved from England to the USA...you have to have a Resident Alien (Green Card) certification to own weapons here...

If you moved to England...the gun laws are quiet restrictive...but you can still own .22lr's

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I think he came here. But, if you're moving here to be a permanent resident, and work, don't you need a green card anyway?

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If he registered as a Democrat, he could probably vote.
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