[zpatatus]

Originally Posted by big shrek

Pre-1995 ones would, dunno about the stuff Ruger's putting out lately...too much plastic in the guts.

If yer gonna go 1022, get a Volquartzen version, WAY more precise, and way more reliable. Not to mention the cool fluted barrels...

The difference between the old and new 10/22s is that the new ones have a plastic trigger assembly housing. Everything else is the same and I so no difference in performance between the two. The plastic is actually stronger than the aluminum one.

In regards to reliability. Yes you can pay a lot more for a Volquartzen, they are a great rifle. I am not sure it is any more reliable than a Ruger if the Ruger is 100%. I see a lot (I am an instructor) of 10/22s on the line at Appleseed. A lot being most. Last weekend had 21 of 26 rifles on the line were 10/22s and that pretty standard numbers. Some were right out of the box, most were basic factory models and a few modified ones. I rarely see a reliability problem with them unless the person has modified them up in some way (home made trigger jobs, etc.

[fatmidgets]

I have a Savage Mark 2, and absolutely love it. It's dead on at 50, and even 70 yards (haven't gone any farther than that). It's fairly inexpensive to add a small 4x32mm scope, or even a cheap 3x9x40. But then again, I love the Ruger 10/22. It just depends on what your doing. If you are taking longer range shots, the 10/22 is good, but I find the savage better. However, if your doing squirrel hunting, It's DAMN hard to beat up to 50 rounds (although the 25 would probably be less cumbersome) of .22 hollow points at your disposal!