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Old 11-23-2011, 01:24 AM   #31
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Seriously? You are correct though. Opinions mean nothing, Not even From A Doc at an institute for the deaf. Oh wait, he had solid data.
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http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/gun-nuts/2011/08/notes-hearing-loss


Screw it, anyone can do research. My left ear is "not" what it was from that 1 shot. Your just special I guess. I'm starting to dislike Texans!
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You should learn how to shoot then! I'm not saying the .22 does not have its' place, but SD usually happens inside 7 yards. Be realistic. 21 feet is not enough room to depend on a .22.



So if you have an appropriate firearm, why ask a loaded question? I'm curious about the +P and +P+ rage. Why? Is 100fps going to save you? Is it the magic bullet?


I'll ask 1 question. How many of you have fired a handgun in a confined space such as a house? The pain is quite intense if you don't know. A shotgun is worse. Your ears and Eyes will hurt. Your ears may bleed. The ringing will be so bad afterwards you may not hear for days, if at all. I fired my .357 in a house once. The sound/ shock brought me to my knees. 1 shot. It is not so easy. My 9 shot .22 revolver is not much better w/ hyper velocity ammo. I actually settled for my 10mm 1911 Gov't w/ Standard 180gr gold dots. If I'm going deaf, and I miss, it is hard to miss a guy w/ bleeding ears and that is shaking all over.
BTW, I have a big territorial dog, so I cover my bases.
#1 I labeled my guns and ammunition to let you know that the 22 will not be my main defense weapon (as the initial wording of my question was very clear). You were, by the way, the only one who gave me a silly comment.

#2 Also sir, there is no magic bullet as you say, these are just well proven types that Ive chosen(none were +p+). They cycle the best and are accurate out their respective weapons, and ive spent the time and money making sure of that.

#3 If theres a person or persons in my house, meaning to do my wife and daughter harm for whatever reason(a one in a million terrible chance), confined muzzle blast has no place in my planning. If I can save them from danger i dont give a crap if my eardrums blow out and stick on the walls. My life and limb is worth less than theirs, to me anyways and I would protect them to the bitter end. Maybe Im nieve, but I tend to think the adrenaline would prevent me from dropping in the middle of an SD situation, without being shot myself.

#4 Im not trying to be a jerk with this post, I just want you to know Im not messin around, this is a serious matter and one that means alot to me. Im just trying to find the right answer to my first question, without sillyness.

Back to business....
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A solid is likely to be better in a .22 as an HP is likely to have insufficient penetration for defensive purposes. Take a look at the 40 gr Aguila Interceptor solid. It is rated at 192 lbs/ft of ME and most definitely feels and sounds hotter out of my Mossberg 40. Feels hotter than Stingers to me.
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That sounds like a real winner. Ill check out the ballistics of both. Although, i will need to run some thru the rifle first to make a good decision.

Knowing that the rimfire cartrige is quite a bit less dependable than a centerfire, how does aguila stack up? I know all the CCI types have a very good reputation for not having many duds. But are there more with rem, win, and fed? In general that is.
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IF you are going to use .22lr for self-defense...at least be able to throw tons of it downrange!!!
A 1022, won't cut it.
Get a Calico, they hold 100 rounds per mag, and the M-100 carbines are just as accurate as a NIB 1022.
For personal defense, in a home, the Calico M-110 Pistol loaded full of Stingers/Velociters is perfect


If you want 9mm, get a Calico Liberty III pistol, like the pair in my Avatar
50 & 100 round mags for those. (Pics are with the 50's installed)
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Get a pump action 20 guage if you want something she can shoot for self defense, load it with #4 ... perhaps a nice .32 pistol. A 10/22 is not a defensive weapon and odds are if she fired off 10 shots, 10 shots would go through the wall or window out to where you dont want them.

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I've had really good reliability with the Federal bulk HP ammo. My teenage grandsons put 2 of those 550 rd bulk packs through a Ruger 10-22 and a Walther P22 with only a few feed failures in the 10-22 and none in the P22. We certainly wore the paint off the flip up metal targets. I'm impressed with the little Walther pistol. Oddly, the only feed failures with the 10-22 were from the Ruger mags. The Hot Lips 25rd mag worked perfectly.

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I've got a couple of bricks of the Remington Yellow Jackets laid back for this use.

The .22lr ammo clasification that they fall in is called Hyper-Velocity with a speed around 1550 fps at the muzzle. Despite being very fast, I haven't found one brand in particular that is very accurate in either of my 10/22's though.

On the other hand, Federal 550 Bulk Pack ammo from Walmart has a velocity of around 1,250 fps at the muzzle using a 36gr hollow point and give me very good accuracy. Considering the BIG difference in price between the Bulk Pack and the Hyper-Velocity ammo, I think I'll stick with the Fed. 550.

Here's an interesting ammo test report you may enjoy reading:

.22 Ammunition Trials

ETA: If you want Hyper-Velocity ammo with a 36gr. solid go with the the Remington Viper:

41059 - Ammo .22 Long Rifle Viper Hyper Velocity 36-Grain Truncated Cone Solid Bullet 1410 fps 100 Rounds
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I'm impressed with the little Walther pistol.
I bought it used, below market value... by quite a bit. Now I know why the guy jumped so quickly This is an early edition, and it has ALL the common problems. Since polishing the ramp and running Blazer, the only operational problem it still has is with the first round loading.

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I've had really good reliability with the Federal bulk HP ammo. My teenage grandsons put 2 of those 550 rd bulk packs through a Ruger 10-22 and a Walther P22 with only a few feed failures in the 10-22 and none in the P22. We certainly wore the paint off the flip up metal targets. I'm impressed with the little Walther pistol. Oddly, the only feed failures with the 10-22 were from the Ruger mags. The Hot Lips 25rd mag worked perfectly.
Thanks glockhead, that was a great article!!!!! Thats the best objective info so far about different rounds out of the 10/22. I appreciate it man.
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IF you are going to use .22lr for self-defense...at least be able to throw tons of it downrange!!!
A 1022, won't cut it.
Get a Calico, they hold 100 rounds per mag, and the M-100 carbines are just as accurate as a NIB 1022.
For personal defense, in a home, the Calico M-110 Pistol loaded full of Stingers/Velociters is perfect


If you want 9mm, get a Calico Liberty III pistol, like the pair in my Avatar
50 & 100 round mags for those. (Pics are with the 50's installed)
I can fight zombies all freekin day without reloading!!
Thats a sweet little piece, and with a 100rd mag, I wouldnt feel bad having only two. How much are extra mags for that beast?
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all the people against a .22 for SD, Maybe some accuracy classes are needed? it's all about shot placement... a .22 can still put people down. caliber size is not a replacement for good shooting..

throwing 100 rds of .22 at someone is stupid IMO.
3 shots. that's it.

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