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Old 11-22-2011, 04:39 PM   #21
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I swear Ive seen a bayonet for one somewhere.

Any links to test videos or other info would be awesome.

Im hearing about 60gr subsonics, but they only go like 650fps, which is a little slow. A heavier bullet might make a big difference though, or maybe a fast 40gr round nose.
You're going to have a tough time getting the subsonics to cycle the action in the 10/22, speaking from experience...
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A solid is likely to be better in a .22 as an HP is likely to have insufficient penetration for defensive purposes. Take a look at the 40 gr Aguila Interceptor solid. It is rated at 192 lbs/ft of ME and most definitely feels and sounds hotter out of my Mossberg 40. Feels hotter than Stingers to me.
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I agree. The .22lr is not optimal, but you can put more rounds on target faster with a .22 than anything else.
You should learn how to shoot then! I'm not saying the .22 does not have its' place, but SD usually happens inside 7 yards. Be realistic. 21 feet is not enough room to depend on a .22.

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I have two 9mms(ruger p95[124+Pgold dot] and sr9c[124+p ranger t]) at the ready, a 20 guage[21in bbl#2buckshot] and a fully converted saiga ak47[sapson 8m3 124grhp].

In short, the 10/22 WILL NOT be the primary weapon of choice. Just a maybe in a long list of 'I hope nots'.
Just wanted to clear that up.
So if you have an appropriate firearm, why ask a loaded question? I'm curious about the +P and +P+ rage. Why? Is 100fps going to save you? Is it the magic bullet?


I'll ask 1 question. How many of you have fired a handgun in a confined space such as a house? The pain is quite intense if you don't know. A shotgun is worse. Your ears and Eyes will hurt. Your ears may bleed. The ringing will be so bad afterwards you may not hear for days, if at all. I fired my .357 in a house once. The sound/ shock brought me to my knees. 1 shot. It is not so easy. My 9 shot .22 revolver is not much better w/ hyper velocity ammo. I actually settled for my 10mm 1911 Gov't w/ Standard 180gr gold dots. If I'm going deaf, and I miss, it is hard to miss a guy w/ bleeding ears and that is shaking all over.
BTW, I have a big territorial dog, so I cover my bases.
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You should learn how to shoot then! I'm not saying the .22 does not have its' place, but SD usually happens inside 7 yards. Be realistic. 21 feet is not enough room to depend on a .22.



So if you have an appropriate firearm, why ask a loaded question? I'm curious about the +P and +P+ rage. Why? Is 100fps going to save you? Is it the magic bullet?


I'll ask 1 question. How many of you have fired a handgun in a confined space such as a house? The pain is quite intense if you don't know. A shotgun is worse. Y
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our ears and Eyes will hurt. Your ears may bleed. The ringing will be so bad afterwards you may not hear for days, if at all. I fired my .357 in a house once. The sound/ shock brought me to my knees. 1 shot. I
t is not so easy. My 9 shot .22 revolver is not much better w/ hyper velocity ammo. I actually settled for my 10mm 1911 Gov't w/ Standard 180gr gold dots. If I'm going deaf, and I miss, it is hard to miss a guy w/ bleeding ears and that is shaking all over.
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O please! Unless you were in a closet at the time thats just nonsense
I've fired a few (biggest 45acp) in small rooms ( say 12x12 ) and NONE of that came close to happening save some ear ringing
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And least we not forget the actual number of people actually killed with the lowly .22 ranks up there near the top of the list. Ask brady and/or reagan what they think of the lowly .22. Anybody that doesn't believe the .22 is dangerous can volunteer to stand in front of one.
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And least we not forget the actual number of people actually killed with the lowly .22 ranks up there near the top of the list. Ask brady and/or reagan what they think of the lowly .22. Anybody that doesn't believe the .22 is dangerous can volunteer to stand in front of one.
PLEASE dont bring up Brady
I'm still pissed at him for getting shot
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O please! Unless you were in a closet at the time thats just nonsense
I've fired a few (biggest 45acp) in small rooms ( say 12x12 ) and NONE of that came close to happening save some ear ringing
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Yes, I really belive everything i read on the internet
Well, except for this----
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Seriously? You are correct though. Opinions mean nothing, Not even From A Doc at an institute for the deaf. Oh wait, he had solid data. Never mind, you have personnal experience that trumps all.
http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/gun-nuts/2011/08/notes-hearing-loss


Screw it, anyone can do research. My left ear is "not" what it was from that 1 shot. Your just special I guess. I'm starting to dislike Texans!
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I have a lot of squirrels on my place- non of them are "pests"

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I HAD a lot of squirrels on my property. And they were "PESTS". Gnawed on my deck and out-buildings and destroyed MANY bird feeders. They're as destructive as rats. As a result, any squirrel I see within thirty feet of my bird feeders WILL GO TO THE LANDFILL. The last time I checked, I didn't see the squirrel on the endangered species list.
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