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Jo da Plumbr 02-10-2010 01:49 PM

Anyone know this 22?
Jo wants one.


CA357 02-10-2010 05:54 PM

Wow! Pretty cool. :cool:

stalkingbear 02-10-2010 06:27 PM

It's an American Arms 180. It holds 177 rounds of .22LR in the drum magazine and was originally designed/marketed towards prison guard tower guns. They were made in selective fire and semi-auto only versions.

Jo da Plumbr 02-10-2010 06:31 PM

Thanks Bear

Of course I can't have one here in Mexifornia, but still awsome.

cpttango30 02-10-2010 07:07 PM

Mikey likes it and when he wins the lotto he is going to buy one.

user4 02-14-2010 01:31 AM

Don't convert you guns to auto. Don't attack forum members for their opinions legal or otherwise.


big shrek 02-15-2010 05:07 PM

Those are nice, but exceptionally hard to find in semi-auto or full-auto, due to age & the fact that most prisons STILL ain't gonna give 'em up...but every once in awhile you'll see one on an auction site.

Here's one for $6500

One for $9999

The full-auto ones require the Tax Stamp & all that loverly ATF paperwork.


Class 3 Weapons: American 180 Submachine Gun (Pre-May)

Extremely unique in its capacity and design, the American 180 is a true reflection of U.S. ingenuity. Capable of an astounding 1200 rounds per minute when using the standard .22LR ammunition, the American 180 also has a capacity of up to 275 rounds. Unlike other SMG’s, which may sacrifice accuracy for rate of fire, because the American 180 uses the .22LR, it has significantly less recoil, acute accuracy, and a lower change of over-penetration and ricochets. Some of the other specifications of the American 180 include:

Caliber: 22LR
Magazine Capacities: 165, 177, 220, or 275 rounds
Weight When Empty: 2.6kg
Weight When Loaded: 4.5kg (with 176-round mag)
Barrel Length: 470mm (standard) 229mm (short)
Overall Length: 900mm
Rate of Fire: 1200 rd/min with .22LR, 1500 rd/min with .22LARCO
Effective Range: 100m

Initially produced by an American company in Austria, the American 180 was soon made by American Arms International and ILARCO (Illinois Arms Company Inc.). Today, the American 180 remains as one of the most distinctive and beloved submachine guns around. Available at a low price from, the American 180 makes a perfect addition to any gun collection.
Yugoslavia used the American 180, renamed as the MGV-176, as a military weapon. MFR'd by Gorenje from Velenje until 1979. Production continued in Slovenia where it is apparently still manufactured by Orbis.


MGV-176 Submachinegun
For those interested in a low recoil, high-rate-of-fire submachinegun (SMG) that is readily silenced, inexpensive to operate and deadly, the MGV-176 SMG from the former Yugoslavia, was made to order. The .22 Long Rifle cartridge is the most available and least expensive round on the scene today, and the MGV-176 is capable of consuming blocks of .22 LR—to the tune of 1,200 to 1,600 rounds per minute!

"But officer, I was only shooting cans," won't get you an out of jail pass.

If you are in the market for an MGV-176, you won't be able to purchase one in the U.S. Your best chance of locating one of these babies, assuming you can get one back into the States is to travel to Slovenia where they are reportedly still being made, or head to Switzerland where automatic weapons laws are less stringent than here at home.

The MGV-176 looks like the American-made, American-180 SMG in .22 LR. It was made in Yugoslavia until the late 1970s. Today, it is produced by Orbis in Slovenia.

This gun is all about overkill. Pull down on a target with one of these babies and you can empty the 161-round flat-pan magazine in no time flat. Or, assuming you are not in a hurry, you can take your time and fill your target with lead using single shots.

Not intended for long distance plinking, this SMG is good to about 200 feet.

The MGV-176 is a blowback operated selective-fired weapon that fires from the open bolt. Single shot or automatic fire is controlled by trigger pressure. A short SMG, it is just 18.9 inches long, with an odd-looking steel wire shoulder stock that folds tucked up beneath the gun. Extended, the MGV-176 is slightly longer than 31 inches.

With a polymer receiver and pistol grip, it weighs just 3.99 pounds without the magazine, 7.5 pounds with a loaded magazine (the cover is made of see-through plastic).

The MGV-176 accommodates a very nasty silencer, making it extremely stealthy.

This SMG saw action in Bosnia.

It has been exported.

With no significant recoil the MGV-176 is definitely not your grandfather's .22.
Currently available from Ohio Ordinance Works.

with silencer, wire stock folded

Destroyer219 02-17-2010 12:20 AM

Whole magazine dump would only cost you maybe $5? So cool! Must have once I save up enough money....:p

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