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Old 01-13-2013, 10:03 AM   #11
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It is illegal to transfer or own any pistol that is made of cheap pot metal in MN. It is considered a "Saturday Night Special" SS624.716

Taken from the MN Revisor of Statues website.

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624.716 SATURDAY NIGHT SPECIALS PROHIBITED; PENALTY.

Any federally licensed firearms dealer who sells a Saturday night special pistol, or any person who manufactures or assembles a Saturday night special pistol in whole or in part, shall be guilty of a gross misdemeanor.
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Subd. 4.Saturday night special pistol.

"Saturday night special pistol" means a pistol other than an antique firearm or a pistol for which the propelling force is carbon dioxide, air or other vapor, or children's pop guns or toys, having a frame, barrel, cylinder, slide or breechblock:

(1) of any material having a melting point (liquidus) of less than 1,000 degrees Fahrenheit, or

(2) of any material having an ultimate tensile strength of less than 55,000 pounds per square inch, or

(3) of any powdered metal having a density of less than 7.5 grams per cubic centimeter.
If I were you, I would look into a different .22 if that is what you are in the market for. The Sig 1911-22 is the same as the GSG 1911-22 but as stated above is picky with ammo. The Sig Mosquito is made by GSG as well and imported to SIG . That is very picky with ammo as well and is not very well made. I would look into something like the Ruger SR22 if you are looking for something that resembles a typical modern semi auto. If you are set on the grip of a 1911, the Ruger 22/45 has the same grip angle as a 1911 and is an excellent firearm as well. Bottom line is Ruger knows how to make a quality .22 firearm. You could also look into getting a CZ 75 and picking up a kadet kit as well. These have received excellent reviews for quality and reliability.
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It is illegal to transfer or own any pistol that is made of cheap pot metal in MN. It is considered a "Saturday Night Special" SS624.716


If I were you, I would look into a different .22 if that is what you are in the market for. The Sig 1911-22 is the same as the GSG 1911-22 but as stated above is picky with ammo. The Sig Mosquito is made by GSG as well and imported to SIG . That is very picky with ammo as well and is not very well made. I would look into something like the Ruger SR22 if you are looking for something that resembles a typical modern semi auto. If you are set on the grip of a 1911, the Ruger 22/45 has the same grip angle as a 1911 and is an excellent firearm as well. Bottom line is Ruger knows how to make a quality .22 firearm. You could also look into getting a CZ 75 and picking up a kadet kit as well. These have received excellent reviews for quality and reliability.
I call BS on your calling a GSG 1911 a "Saturday night special". There are multiple members on this forum that own and shoot them with excellent results, including myself.
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I have an SR22 and a Browning Buckmark, and they are both great plinkers. The Buckmark is a tack driver, and the SR22 is no slouch either, for a .22.

I wonder which part of the GSG is pot metal?

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I call BS on your calling a GSG 1911 a "Saturday night special". There are multiple members on this forum that own and shoot them with excellent results, including myself.
Call BS on what ever you want. The simple fact is that it is considered a "SNS" You said your self that you did not know why it is illegal in MN. I posted the statutes, and digging around a little bit on the internet I found this post on 1911forums.com posted by the import manager of ATI in Rochester NY. Post #22 in this link http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=283805 by ATI Christopher

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so if you live in IL may want to make double sure about the laws before you get your hopes up about this seemingly wonderful gun

If you have this dealer call me I will provide for him the document from the manufacturer in Germany stating that the GSG 1911 pistol has a melting point temperature of greater than 800 degrees F. Of course we did this research and provided the info to our distributors, but some people still make up their own rules.

There are 5 states with melting point laws, MN, MA, HI, SC & IL. The GSG 1911 has a melting point above 800 but below 900, so it is legal for sale in IL, SC & HI, as their melting points are 800 degrees F and below. MA is 900 degrees F and MN is 1000 degrees F.
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Here is another post by Christpher on AR15.com stating the same thing.
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Unfortunately, the GSG 1911 pistol does not meet melting point requirements for MA or MN. MA has a melting point restriction of 900 degrees F for all alloy pistols and MN has 1000 degree F melting point. The GSG 1911 has a melting point of a little over 800 degrees F, making it ok for IL, HI & SC but not MA or MN. Sorry.
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Wow did not realize there where melting point laws. Thanks for the info. I guess those antis try to get everything about a gun outlawed.

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I am glad I live in a state that allows me to purchase quality firearms at reasonable prices.

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I own the ati gsg 1911 and LOVE it. Shoots great and will cycle anything i feed it. Considering trading it for a rem 700 or a savage .17 tho..

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