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Old 11-11-2012, 11:58 PM   #21
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Here's a vote for 10-22, Savage MKII, and CZ. I recently paid $445 for a CZ 453 .17 HMR, nearly new in box, W/Papers.

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If you want a semi-auto (between the 60 and the 10/22) I'd get the 60 unless you want to add parts onto your rifle to make it different or better. A 60 is a great rifle right out of the box while a Ruger is mostly for people who want to change things around. But the Ruger can be decent out of the box. It's just that the 60 will likely be better (almost certainly in fact).

If you want a bolt action .22 it depends on how much you want to spend really. For as cheap as possible get a Savage MkII. For something a little nicer and more solid get a Marlin XT (several models to pick from). For something that will shoot with almost any rifle get a Savage MkII with a bull barrel. For something very nice for around $400-$500 get a CZ. They shoot great, look great and are very solid.

So there are lots of good choices. Your budget and your needs means a lot. For what you said (varmint control and plinking) the cheaper Savage will do great. Going up the price range gets you other things too.

There are other great rifles out there too. But these are the choices I have made so I guess I think they were the choices to make (or I would have bought something else).

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I was dead set on buying a Savage Mark II GXP at Dick's Sporting Goods, but after some hands on time, I went with the Marlin 60. The salesman said the Savage didn't come with a scope (not sure about that), also I'm a lefty (God's little mistake lol), so working the bolt can be a little awkward for me.

I love the Marlin. Put about 300 rds. down range this Friday with zero failures! Got her home, and man she was dirty (not like that)! Spent about 3 hours cleaning everything: action assembly, barrel, bolt, receiver, and trigger group. 22 is one dirty round, at least the ones I shot which were Federal Value Pack (200 rds), and Remington Golden Bullet (aprox 100 rds). I'm still new at this, so I'm sure there are some cleaning techniques to help speed things up.

My point is, while I love my Marlin (she's not going anywhere), had I the chance to do it all over again, I would have gone with a bolt action. If only for the ease of maintenance. Namely a Savage Mark II FV (Synthetic stock/bull barrel).

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Marlin and Savage both make a tube fed 22 bolt action that eats all types of 22 ammo. If I bought a bolt action 22 it would be one of the models that will eat any kind of 22 ammo. A 22 that versatile is a true survival weapon that you will cherish for the rest of your life.

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22 is one dirty round, at least the ones I shot which were Federal Value Pack (200 rds), and Remington Golden Bullet (aprox 100 rds).
Those Golden Bullets are as dirty as it gets. Federal hasn't been great lately either at least in my area but nothing is as bad as Remington rimfire ammo. I've seen 100 rounds of it jam up a single shot, bolt action rifle and that's hard to do. I've been around that rifle for 35 years or more and I never saw it stop working until I decided to finish off a brick of Golden Duds (if you shoot enough of them you'll know why they're called that). I actually couldn't get the bolt to work twice with just 200 rounds through the rifle. I'd toss any Remington rimfire ammo in the trash before I would shoot it. Seriously.
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"Those Golden Bullets are as dirty as it gets."
"nothing is as bad as Remington rimfire ammo."
"I'd toss any Remington rimfire ammo in the trash before I would shoot it. Seriously."
That's actually really good to hear. I appreciate the insight, as I was kind of discouraged at the thought of having to do such maintenance after every range visit. When cleaning the rifle, it wasn't just power residue; it was like someone took black sand and poured it inside the receiver. Ugh.
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Yeah that's Golden Bullets alright.

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The Marlin XT's have come a long way...basically its the 900-series with an Accutrigger & a cool new synthetic stock!

If you are intending this to be a hunting tool, got with an -M designated XT22...those are all .22Magnum (.22WMR),
which doubles, if not triples your effective range, and will drop anything up to coyote with no problems!

Boyd's makes aftermarket wood stocks for all Marlins...Good Stuff!!

Check out Defcon's work if you want to know how WILD you can get with Marlins!!

He's done Marlin XT's, 60's, and 795's into a wide variety of stocks and posted the reults here on Firearmstalk!!

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Those Golden Bullets are as dirty as it gets. Federal hasn't been great lately either at least in my area but nothing is as bad as Remington rimfire ammo. I've seen 100 rounds of it jam up a single shot, bolt action rifle and that's hard to do. I've been around that rifle for 35 years or more and I never saw it stop working until I decided to finish off a brick of Golden Duds (if you shoot enough of them you'll know why they're called that). I actually couldn't get the bolt to work twice with just 200 rounds through the rifle. I'd toss any Remington rimfire ammo in the trash before I would shoot it. Seriously.
Perhaps a bit harsh, but not wrong.
However well a gun shoots the Remington ammo, it's extremely likely that it will shoot any number of other brands noticeably better. And yeah, the duds will drive you crazy.
I'm in the CCI camp. A brick of blazers isn't much more than most of the other bulk stuff, and it is consistently accurate & reliable in all of my .22s.
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I have a marlin 60 And I love to shoot it. The only thing I don't like about it is that hollow point rounds will get jammed up(for me at least)

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