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northhike 09-09-2010 10:32 PM

Is the .22mag going away?
 
This topic may have been covered in another post so I apologize if its redundant....

Finding a .22mag gun these days seems to be getting tougher and tougher. The .17HMR seems to be more prevelant and I am seeing a migration back to the .22LR. Are you guys seeing the same thing?

orangello 09-09-2010 10:45 PM

I think i remember seeing an announcement of a new .22 WMR pistol by KelTec or somebody fairly recently. http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/pistols/pmr-30/

Alchemist 09-09-2010 11:11 PM

Yes, the Kel-Tec PMR30 has been released in it's first issue. I figure after they get any initial bugs out, it'll be popular and will spark renewed interest in .22 mag. It'd be nice if the ammo came down some in price.

billdeserthills 09-09-2010 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by northhike (Post 347659)
This topic may have been covered in another post so I apologize if its redundant....

Finding a .22mag gun these days seems to be getting tougher and tougher. The .17HMR seems to be more prevelant and I am seeing a migration back to the .22LR. Are you guys seeing the same thing?

Excel has come out with both a 17 hmr & a 22 Mag auto pistol in the last couple of years, even S&W continues to produce a DA revolver in 22 Mag, & Taurus, Charter Arms & Ruger make several models in that caliber, so it's out there...

billdeserthills 09-09-2010 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Alchemist (Post 347686)
Yes, the Kel-Tec PMR30 has been released in it's first issue. I figure after they get any initial bugs out, it'll be popular and will spark renewed interest in .22 mag. It'd be nice if the ammo came down some in price.

Unlikely that the price is gonna come down, if re-newed interest in that ammo is shown... I'm afraid the price will go higher

Ram Rod 09-09-2010 11:42 PM

Well, I've really never given the 22mag much thought until recently. I tend to keep myself updated on most of the industry, the ammo, and what's available. I still see the ammo on the shelves, and the rifles in the racks, and still talk about the 22mag on the forums. Gravitation of the market, or preference really isn't much of a factor in my opinion. What i think is that the 22mag is something you pretty much started with, has a decent following, but somewhat narrow in application. Something as old as the 22mag will never go away. It may see more shade than sun these days. Thing is, cost of ammo. New calibers seemed to have sprung up almost overnight in the past few years. Lots of them in centerfire as well. Thing is...they're finding a niche somehow, and mainly because of the marketing and the 'got to have what's new' and what's hot mentality. I'm not trying to ruffle any feathers nor elicit arguments. It's just the way I see the industry and market over being involved in it for over 20 years. I don't know of many cartridges that have become totally obsolete. Granted, some may be hard to find and at premium prices (why reloading pays off for centerfire). As far as the rimfires, the tried and true will always be alive and well. Who cares what a 17HMR can do if you already have a 22mag? Why get into the cost of a new rifle and new ammo? Ruger puts out some of the best rifles in my opinion for the 22 caliber. There should be plenty available in the 22mag. If it seems more difficult to find a 22mag rifle where you are, then maybe it's the local market. Wal Mart has them here. Gun shops have them here. You might very well find a jewel in a local pawn shop these days. Well, anyway...back to why I'd been seriously thinking of the 22mag recently.........my wife has this H.Schmidt model 21 SA revolver that I just finished fixing. I have learned that some models had an interchangeable barrel/cylinder since I ordered the parts through Numrich, and then went on to look it all up on the internet. I'd really like to have the capability of the 22mag with this revolver. Even thought the 22lr may be the most economical choice these days, some of us still have the need to diversify for certain reasons. Your 22mag is out there, I'll almost guarantee it.

Alchemist 09-09-2010 11:49 PM

I hear you about the price... Some people have suggested that a little higher-performance .22 magnum round could be developed... I'm predicting MORE interest in it in the future, not less... Perhaps 5.7X28mm also. A nice smaller/cheaper pistol similar to the FNH 5.7 could become popular among people who are recoil-sensitive. There's a new market of first-time CCW buyers out there... (The LCP is nearing 500,000 sold in about 2 1/2 years)... so there's incentive for development of light easy-carry user-friendly pistols. I might have gotten a little off-track here since now I realize this is a rimfire rifle string but it's relevent anyhow... Point is, I agree that .22 magnum ain't goin' away!

RichardOwlMirror 11-17-2014 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by northhike (Post 347659)
This topic may have been covered in another post so I apologize if its redundant....

Finding a .22mag gun these days seems to be getting tougher and tougher. The .17HMR seems to be more prevelant and I am seeing a migration back to the .22LR. Are you guys seeing the same thing?

I just finished posting an article called: Should 22Mag be Taken Seriously as a Defensive Caliber?

After reading this article, my interest was piqued and I found there are MANY 22 wmr rifles available by many manufacturers,
The least expensive is a Savage.
Check out my post for more info.

mboylan 11-20-2014 03:16 AM

The 22 Mag is available in more loads and with more premium bullets than ever before. 22 mag rifles outnumber 17 HMR rifles by many times.

John_Deer 11-20-2014 04:08 AM

The 17hmr with it's 17gr bullet is an expensive paper puncher. Manufacturers are developing guns and cartridges to be used on ranges. They know that hunters are going to stick with the tried and true. Yes, manufacturers are still churning out hunting rifles. But their R&D is going towards giving suburbanites new toys for use at the range or small areas of land.

Manufacturers also know that hunting is a dying sport. Fewer and fewer people are hunting every year. twenty five years ago it was nothing for us to have 50 or 60 hunters show up on a Saturday to drive deer. When I moved to NC deer hunting was the number one participant sport. Now deer hunting is not even on the list. We have 35 members total to drive deer.

Young people are leaving rural areas in droves. They do not care to inherit the family farm if even if it is still profitable. Farming has become a big money, high pressure business. Farmers need more executive assistants than farm hands.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alchemist (Post 347713)
I hear you about the price... Some people have suggested that a little higher-performance .22 magnum round could be developed... I'm predicting MORE interest in it in the future, not less... Perhaps 5.7X28mm also. A nice smaller/cheaper pistol similar to the FNH 5.7 could become popular among people who are recoil-sensitive. There's a new market of first-time CCW buyers out there... (The LCP is nearing 500,000 sold in about 2 1/2 years)... so there's incentive for development of light easy-carry user-friendly pistols. I might have gotten a little off-track here since now I realize this is a rimfire rifle string but it's relevent anyhow... Point is, I agree that .22 magnum ain't goin' away!

For some reason the 22mag keeps getting cut back. People might want a more robust 22mag but manufacturers keep cutting the velocity of the 22mag. I do not know if it is the use of faster burning powders to make pistol shooters happy. But the 22mag aint what it used to be.


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