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Old 06-02-2010, 08:39 AM   #11
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Thanks for the help. FYI here in UK you require a Fireaerm certificate for weapons such as .22LR
The same license is also required for air rifles greater than 12ft/lb hence the question I asked yesterday.
They also require two people to act as referees, how many times I use the toilet, the colour of my cat, and god knows what else.

I didn't realise that this is a US forum, which isn't such a bad thing, for you guys are much more well versed with guns than us.
And yes, I agree that the laws here are too restrictive, but I have to live with it.
Anyway, I have looked at the merits of both guns and decided to go for .22LR
Here's why:
The guns are considerably cheaper than an equivalent FAC air rifle and the ammo is cheap.
I also believe tha there are a range of cartridges available other than .22
Does a NATO 5.56mm round fit too?

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Old 06-02-2010, 01:39 PM   #12
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The NATO 5.56 fires approximately the same diameter bullet, but it is an entirely different animal. Google the cartridges and you'll see what I mean.

You're definitely right on the cost. To get an air rifle with the equivalent performance of a .22, you'd likely have to spend 5 to 10 times as much. A Marlin Model 60 costs around $150 here in the US. I would likely have to buy a $600 air rifle to get the same capabilities.

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Thanks Jo. FAC, what a stupid concept. A government that does not trust its own citizens, is itself not trustworthy.
The FAC sounds very similar to the Illinois FOID card (firearm owners identification card). You are not allowed to purchase firearms or ammunition without one if you are an Illinois resident. Brought to you by the Socialist Republic of Chicago. Many are hoping the Supreme Court will make that obsolete latter this summer.
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Re: versatility of .22 Ammo- Yes, there are several different rounds that will work. Howver, as the man said, 5.56 is not one of them.

The .22 LR is a RIMFIRE cartridge. Firing pin pinches the rim against the chamber wall. 5.56 is not only a much larger bottlenecked case, but is a centerfire- firing pin strikes a primer located at center of rear of cartridge.

Within the .22 rimfire family, there is the .22 Short, and .22 LR (the .22 Long is pretty much obsolete) There are also 22 BB cabs and CB caps- very low power, very quiet. There are also .22 shot cartridges, but of very limited range and effectiveness. (large roaches at 20 ft) the .22 Magnum does NOT interchange with other common .22s.

A semi auto rifle will likely not cycle any ammo but what it was made for- commonly .22 Long Rifle- othe rounds may be fed by hand. A .22 bolt action will pretty well eat whatever you put in it. There ARE exceptions- Remington made a series of .22 autos that seems to digest anything that fits in the chamber.

One of my .22 bolt guns is a WW II Mossberg 44US target rifle. With the right ammo, if I do my part, it will put 5 bullets in one slightly ragged hole at 100 meters. I LIKE that! PS- disregard the photo- wrong picture-

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