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xf8u39 06-01-2010 02:54 PM

22LR Vs FAC air
 
Hi, I am relatively new to shooting and new to this forum. I am in the process of applying for a FAC. In the meantime I would like peoples views on the 22lr and FAC air rifles.
I have heard stories about merits of both.

I intend to shoot rats, squirrels and pigeons and the occasional rabbit. I have a number of questions before I spend my hard earned cash:

What is the effective range of a 12ft/lb rifle for clean kills of the above quarry.

Also, would a .177 be better than .22 as it has higher velocity?

How much advanctage do you get from FAC air rifle?

Are the .22LR as quiet as air rifles when silenced?

Thanks in advance

robocop10mm 06-01-2010 03:48 PM

For the benefit of the American simpletons...What the heck is a FAC? I presume it is some sort of pellet rifle. The fact that you have to have a permit for a pellet rifle is simply dumfounding to me. You poor bastages stuck in the formerly merry old England. Your rights have been so stripped that you are now forced to ask for a permit for a freaking pellet gun? OMG!!!

Wake up America. This is where we are headed.

Jo da Plumbr 06-01-2010 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by robocop10mm (Post 293196)
For the benefit of the American simpletons...What the heck is a FAC? I presume it is some sort of pellet rifle. The fact that you have to have a permit for a pellet rifle is simply dumfounding to me. You poor bastages stuck in the formerly merry old England. Your rights have been so stripped that you are now forced to ask for a permit for a freaking pellet gun? OMG!!!

Wake up America. This is where we are headed.

Firearms Acquisition Certificate

robocop10mm 06-01-2010 06:10 PM

Thanks Jo. FAC, what a stupid concept. A government that does not trust its own citizens, is itself not trustworthy.

c3shooter 06-01-2010 06:15 PM

A .22 LR with a good suppressor is quieter than a high energy air rifle. But thye also make suppressed air rifles, which are quieter- but you reach a point where either is quiet enough.

For the air rifle, go for .22. The .177 may be faster, but penetration is minimal due to very light bullet.

Accuracy? Air rifles may be more accurate, but either will be "minute of varmint"

Range? I drop squirrels at a measured 45 yard distance with a 5mm Sheridan air rifle. 22 LR can reach about 100 yds IF you shoot that well. Head shots.

For the rest of you mugs, do NOT harrass the man because he lives in a place with restrictive laws- give thanks that it is not you.

JonM 06-01-2010 09:21 PM

used to hunt rabbits with a crossman that i got for xmas when i was 6 or 7. it was one much like this but of higher quality materials without fiber optic sights:
http://www.crosman.com/img/products/full/760b-1.jpg

actually managed to wack a few armadillos with it.

robocop10mm 06-01-2010 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by robocop10mm (Post 293239)
Thanks Jo. FAC, what a stupid concept. A government that does not trust its own citizens, is itself not trustworthy.

Oh, I did not intend to harass him at all. I pity the man that has to live under such tyranny. I will use his plight to illustrate the fight we have before us.

bgeddes 06-01-2010 10:50 PM

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actually managed to wack a few armadillos with it.
In Wisconsin? That is good shooting.

JonM 06-02-2010 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bgeddes (Post 293397)
In Wisconsin? That is good shooting.

no. i grew up in south texas. moved to the peoples republik of wisconsin 10 years ago. family business

big shrek 06-02-2010 05:29 AM

It's a good thing England didn't get that stupid with gun laws before Hitler started knocking on their door...I'm still amazed the Gov't has forgotten already what a dedicated nutjob can do.

But it's ok...sooner or later another will turn up to remind them. Those kind of leaders tend to promise "Change"...tend to be rather good at whipping a crowd into a frenzy...and focus on taking the rights of one group so that another can advance without restraint...and restricting firearms to government & police only...

Remind you of anyone?

:D


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