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Old 09-18-2013, 02:40 PM   #21
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I use pounds of Black Powder each year. High grad BP bought in bulk cost $400 dollars a case and I pick it up. The substitutes such as Triple 7 is less expensive and easier to find.

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I use pounds of Black Powder each year. High grad BP bought in bulk cost $400 dollars a case and I pick it up. The substitutes such as Triple 7 is less expensive and easier to find.
In my area the substitutes are widely available because you are required to have a Bunker to store black powder. But aside from the guys that have no idea what they are doing and just want to extend their hunting season nobody uses them. So they are about twice the cost of black powder even after you pay for shipping. Average cost of bp around here is about $15/lb the substitutes are around $30.
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That is interesting. I have a large Goes Distributor 7 miles from my home. They sell mostly by the case or more. I buy Goex Express or other high grads of Black powder. I use this for BP muzzle loader competition as well as loading for Sharps cartridge rifles.
In the Ruger Old Army the Triple 7 can generate much better ballistics.

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The Ruger Old Army was a completely modern handgun. They are no longer made but can be found. These guns can also handle .45 Colt Ctgs. with a converter. The ROA will cost as much as a modern handgun. They can be heavy loaded with cast bullets or round balls. Triple 7 and other substitutes work well the ROA.
I've been getting by with a Pietta replica of the 1858 Remington pistol, fairly inexpensive especially used, but it can't handle the loads and use that ROA can.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Black-Powder/Pistols-Revolvers%7C/pc/104792580/c/104701680/sc/104503680/Pietta-Model-1858-New-Army-44-Caliber-Revolver-150-Free-Starter-Kit-Included-For-a-Limited-Time/731695.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fpisto ls-revolvers%2F_%2FN-1100201%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104503680%3FWTz_l%3DDirectLoad%253Bca t104792580%253Bcat104701680&WTz_l=DirectLoad%3Bcat 104792580%3Bcat104701680%3Bcat104503680 This one comes with a "starter kit".

I also enjoy the .50 caliber single shot pistol I have, similar to the one in your picture.
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If you are out: http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=705571&categoryId=0&parentCa tegoryId=0&subCategoryId=0&indexId=0&productVarian tId=3717144&quantity=1&itemGUID=f2c2456319fb2b8548 37acc28f3cccf3&destination=%2Fcheckout%2Fitem_adde d_to_cart.jsp%3Fresult%3Dsuccess%26categoryIds%3D1 04792580%7C104691780%7C104536080%26productId%3D705 571%26backToPreviousUrl%3D%252Fcatalog%252Fproduct .jsp%253FproductId%253D705571%26WTz_l%3DChart

Gunbot pointed these out $4 per 50 for CCI, not the subsonic stuff. The pic shows WMR, but the selection below is 40 grain .22 LR

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Id like to get into reloading but i live in an apartment i don have room for the equipment wish i had a garage
You don't need a lot of room for reloading...believe me.

Had a desk set up for reloading in an apartment, but now I live in a cabin so I had to come up with something to go along with the décor.

Not bad on .22LR pricing orangello, that's an encouraging sign.



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Orangejello, I have many BP reproduction percussion revolvers. There are none of them that can take the pressures that an ROA can handle. The ROA is chambered for the .457 and .458 diameter bullets or round balls. The powder chambers also are larger. The ROA pictured has a SS steel cylinder turned from an F-86 landing gear. This revolver clocks a 262 grs. bullet at 1200 FPS with Triple 7. These are proofed with a full chamber of Bullseye. Don't try that with an import.
As for the reproductions the Rogers & Spencer is first choice. The U.S. Black Powder team uses these.

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As for the reproductions the Rogers & Spencer is first choice. The U.S. Black Powder team uses these.
http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=532876 $400 for a R&S, barely used. Nice!
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Id like to get into reloading but i live in an apartment i don have room for the equipment wish i had a garage is there any modern black powder pistols and rifles? Id like to just purchase a pack of 1000 lead balls and about a pound of black powder and learn how to do it but all the black powder guns ive seen look like old rifles and pistols wish there were modern ones
my father reloaded for years when we lived in an apartment when i was youngster. he would set up everything on the coffee table and store it in the closet when finished. so just because you live in an apartment is not a valid excuse. it's much easier if you have a dedicated room or shop, but living in an apartment, you just have to be more resourceful with your space.
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I have no idea how to start! Is it illegal to sell the ammo you make?

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