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Old 11-23-2009, 05:00 AM   #1
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Default 10/22 To Scope Or Not?

Does everyone just automatically go with a scope on their 10/22's?

I'm thinking of mounting fiber optic sights on my new project rifle rather than a scope.

What's the consensus?

BTW, I just bought a Ruger factory walnut sporter stock. I don't have the rifle yet and will buy it next month. I plan to free float the barrel and of course, it will get a Stalkingbear trigger job.

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Old 11-23-2009, 11:42 AM   #2
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Here is some results of a comparison I did between my Ruger 10/22 with TSR200 Aperture Sights,,, and my Marlin 795 with open iron sights;

Marlin 795 (Score: 872 of 1000)

11/09/09...210-3x (Fed. #745)
11/09/09...213-1x (Fed. #745)
11/21/09...220-2x (Win. X22LR)
11/21/09...229-3x (Win. X22LR)
Total......872-9x

Ruger 10/22 (Score: 872 of 1000)

11/18/09...202-2x (Win. X22LR)
11/18/09...219-1x (Fed. #745)
11/22/09...223-5x (Eley Sport)
11/22/09...228-1x (Eley Sport)
Total......872-9x

I used the 5 Bull NRA #TQ-3/5 Target and shot 5 shots at each Bull from 25 yards using the following disciplines over a 100 shot course of fire for each rifle. The only shooting aid I allowed myself was a Sling;

Top Left Bull - Offhand, Top Right Bull - Kneeling, Center Bull - Setting, Low Left Bull - Prone, Low Right Bull - Prone...

You may want to look into the Aperture Sights;

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A small 3-7x20 or 3-9x32 scope would have probably netted better scores from both rifles in my testing, but I really enjoyed the convenience of shooting these rifle's without a scope.

I do own and shoot scoped .22's and they have their place as well when a more finite shooting is needed. However, at my age I can't knock the results of Open Iron or the Aperture Sights.

Here is a picture of the type of target I used when I started this comparison test of sights. The Bulls measure 3-7/8" - and these two targets were shot with my Marlin 795 (Open Sights);

http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll240/JoethebowM/?action=view&current=100_0490.jpg

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As your eyes get older I think a shift to a scope for any distance shooting is inevitable. The stock sights on 10/22 are not very good IMO. As a matter of fact I think there is a huge aftermarket for up graded parts because people want to improve many functions of its basic performance.

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By way of explanation, my eyes aren't what they used to be and I already have a 10/22 with a Nikon Pro-Staff scope on it. That's why I was thinking about fiber optics. I would think fast acquisition could be a plus.

Please continue, I really appreciate your feedback.

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fiber optics would be pretty cool, I agree. I've got a red dot on mine ATM but I don't think I'll ever be getting a scope for this one.

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While doing my little test of open sights and the Aperture sight I had to keep reminding myself to focus only on the front sight even though the target bull down range was fuzzy. My scores would rise when I would remember to do this. Just another bad habit I fell into over the years and should have known (and once did know) to always focus on the front sight.

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My eyes are not what they used to be so I automatically scope all my rifles. I've found that the advantage of only 1 focal plane (scope) is too good to pass up by using iron sights (multiple focal planes or focus points).

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There you go again being logical Bear.

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I scoped my 10/22. I can group like a Master with it.

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