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Old 12-26-2012, 05:02 PM   #41
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They're all called AR'S because "AR-15" is an iconic name. Same thing with the Milwaukee Sawzall. Milwaukee is the only brand name to make the "Sawzall", yet every other brand's reciprocating saw is also called that. It's just an iconic tool. Milwaukee should be flattered. So should Armalite.
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They're all called AR'S because "AR-15" is an iconic name. Same thing with the Milwaukee Sawzall. Milwaukee is the only brand name to make the "Sawzall", yet every other brand's reciprocating saw is also called that. It's just an iconic tool. Milwaukee should be flattered. So should Armalite.
the actual term is generic. kind of like any camera for years was a Kodak. any computer was an IBM, any vacuum cleaner was a Hoover.

AR15 is just a simpler way of describing a particular rifle platform.
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Old 12-26-2012, 05:08 PM   #43
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Unfortunately, it is not a generic name. It has been a legal trademark of Colt since March 1967. Consumers may choose to claim they own an AR-15, but no manufacture who wants to stay out of court will ever use it. Even the company known as Armalite today (not the original Armalite) does not use the term "AR-15" to describe it's products.


Word Mark AR-15
Goods and Services IC 013. US 009. G & S: RIFLES. FIRST USE: 19640511. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19640511
Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Serial Number 72253092
Filing Date August 25, 1966
Current Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Registration Number 0825581
Registration Date March 14, 1967
Owner (REGISTRANT) COLT'S INC. CORPORATION ARIZONA 150 HUYSHOPE AVE. HARTFORD CONNECTICUT
(LAST LISTED OWNER) COLT DEFENSE LLC. LIMITED PARTNERSHIP 547 NEW PARK AVENUE HARTFORD CONNECTICUT 061101332

Assignment Recorded ASSIGNMENT RECORDED
Attorney of Record GEZA C. ZIEGLER JR.
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Affidavit Text SECT 15. SECTION 8(10-YR) 20101110.
Renewal 2ND RENEWAL 20101110
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Well, in that case the only 1911s are the one made by Colt, the only Mausers are the ones made in Germany by Mauser, and the only AK-47s are the origional ones made in Russia.
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Unfortunately, it is not a generic name. It has been a legal trademark of Colt since March 1967. Consumers may choose to claim they own an AR-15, but no manufacture who wants to stay out of court will ever use it. Even the company known as Armalite today (not the original Armalite) does not use the term "AR-15" to describe it's products.


Word Mark AR-15
Goods and Services IC 013. US 009. G & S: RIFLES. FIRST USE: 19640511. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19640511
Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Serial Number 72253092
Filing Date August 25, 1966
Current Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Registration Number 0825581
Registration Date March 14, 1967
Owner (REGISTRANT) COLT'S INC. CORPORATION ARIZONA 150 HUYSHOPE AVE. HARTFORD CONNECTICUT
(LAST LISTED OWNER) COLT DEFENSE LLC. LIMITED PARTNERSHIP 547 NEW PARK AVENUE HARTFORD CONNECTICUT 061101332

Assignment Recorded ASSIGNMENT RECORDED
Attorney of Record GEZA C. ZIEGLER JR.
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Affidavit Text SECT 15. SECTION 8(10-YR) 20101110.
Renewal 2ND RENEWAL 20101110
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4003:rgowkh.3.4
reread my last post. didn't say anything about trademark legal terms. another manufactorer will not use the term, "AR-15" because it is a trademarked name licensed to Colt. but that doesn't stop everyone else from using it to describe that particular rifle platform.

Kodak is a trademark name. IBM is a trademark name. Hoover is a trademark name. people still use Kodak to refer to a camera, IBM in reference to a computer and Hoover in reference to vacuum cleaners.

consumers are not bound be not using a legal trademark name it refering to a particular item. growing up, my grandmother refered to any camera a Kodak, irregardless of what brand it was. so IMO, yes it is in a sense a generic term.
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I know here on FTF we try not to use the term assault rifle. So why do we use AR15? If your gun is not made by Armalite it is not an AR15. AR15 is a model. Your colt is not a AR it's a LE901-16s, LE6940, LE6949p ext...... You DPMS is a MK-12, AP4, A1 Lite 20 ext...... Your BCM is a CAR-16LW, ext... Nowhere on your gun or in your manual dose it say AR15. It just shows us once agin how stupid the media is. If you put the government in charge of the Sahara dessert there would be a shortage of sand in 5 years.
Mine is a (Doublestar) star-15, pretty close eh?
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Johnson & Johnson owns the trademark "Band-Aid" for their brand of "bandages"

But nobody says "pass me a bandage" when they cut their finger. They say "pass me a bandaid"

The AR15 name is no different. I own a Colt LE6940 AR-15. That's what I tell people, because if I simply said "Colt LE6940" most people would have no idea what I was talking about.
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It's like differentiating muskets by the gunsmith that made'm. THE PEOPLE need modern ARMS to fullfill the true meaning of the Second Ammendment. How could we possibly be WELL REGULATED and able to defend the SECURITY OF A FREE STATE against a tyranical government when all we have are bolt action hunting rifles, while the government has modern equipment? Doesn't really matter what they're called.... Not saying all the previous posters are wrong, just trying to put things in perspective.
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