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Old 12-24-2012, 06:42 AM   #31
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i find it amusing that there wasnt even a ar15 of any sort much less a bushmaster involved. the mother had a hi-point carbine in the trunk...
Yeah whatever was in the trunk doesn't look like an AR. Some say it was a Saiga shotgun. From the video below the action works like an AK. I wish in the video they hadn't kept calling it an assault rifle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ju_NllT1iDo

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I truthfully do not doubt you - but could you give me a link for this?
JonM may have a better link but the video above is a starting point.
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Actually the names AR-10 and AR-15 are owned by Colt. They bought the rights to the names from Armalite. AND, some AR-15's ARE full auto. The earliest examples produced by Armalite, prior to adoption my the military as the M-16 were simply AR-15's.

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The term AR-15 is a trademark of Colt who bought the designs from Fairchild. Armalite,at that time, was a division of Fairchild who was seeking to exit the small arms segment and focus on aircraft. Fairchild went on to create the A10 Thunderbolt.

The current company known as Armalite is not the same company. They bought the name Armalite and the AR10 branding. The AR10 that the new Armalite produces is not identical to the AR10 that was submitted to the military and lost to the M14.

After leaving Fairchild, Eugene Stoner went to work for Knight and the SR25 is the result. You could therefore say the SR25 is the original work of the original designer, not the current AR10.

Colt does mark rifles AR15, but they also use a variety of other names in attempt to disconnect the rifle from the term Assault Rifle. Marks like 6920 are model numbers, nothing more.

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The term AR-15 is a trademark of Colt who bought the designs from Fairchild. Armalite,at that time, was a division of Fairchild who was seeking to exit the small arms segment and focus on aircraft. Fairchild went on to create the A10 Thunderbolt.

The current company known as Armalite is not the same company. They bought the name Armalite and the AR10 branding. The AR10 that the new Armalite produces is not identical to the AR10 that was submitted to the military and lost to the M14.

After leaving Fairchild, Eugene Stoner went to work for Knight and the SR25 is the result. You could therefore say the SR25 is the original work of the original designer, not the current AR10.

Colt does mark rifles AR15, but they also use a variety of other names in attempt to disconnect the rifle from the term Assault Rifle. Marks like 6920 are model numbers, nothing more.
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Yeah whatever was in the trunk doesn't look like an AR. Some say it was a Saiga shotgun. From the video below the action works like an AK. I wish in the video they hadn't kept calling it an assault rifle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ju_NllT1iDo


JonM may have a better link but the video above is a starting point.
that s the best one i know of and its obviously not an AR15 or an ak47. looks exactly like a hipoint carbine.
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Yeah whatever was in the trunk doesn't look like an AR. Some say it was a Saiga shotgun. From the video below the action works like an AK. I wish in the video they hadn't kept calling it an assault rifle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ju_NllT1iDo


JonM may have a better link but the video above is a starting point.
The more i've dove into it, it definitely looks like a saiga ...the large projectile that spits out at first is WAY too big to be a .223 (AR15) or 9mm (Hi-Point)

The hi-point has the charging handle on the left side of the rifle behind the ejection port for a right handed firearm, whereas the saiga has it on the right in front of the ejection port.
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Does anyone else think there's a side saddle on the stock? I'm working off my phone so its hard to see.

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My first, a Col SP1 is marked AR15.

But this discussion is pointless. It's like saying that if you don't have a Colt, you don't have a "true" 1911.

This kind of foolishness is best left to the severely anal retentive.

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Only thing mine says is LAR-15

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