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geo110 11-20-2012 04:32 AM

Which would u purchase?
 
I am a suburbanite single father that's waiting for all hell to break loose. When it does, it's not going to be pretty. I think we all know what I'm talking about. With that said, I'm looking to stock up with ammo and firepower. At present I own a 40 Baratta semi auto pistol, and a Mosburg 9+ one pistol grip tactical shotgun. I am looking to add a semi automatic rifle. Between all of the flavors available, is an AR 15 sufficient. By that, I mean At 1000 yards I can waste just about anything. I wasn't sure if I should move up from the standard 223/556 to a higher caliber? I realize it and low cost comes into play. I would be looking to have a minimum of six mags holding a minimum of 28 to 30. Also I would like to incorporate a medium grade scope, Possibly a 1 x 30. When it comes down to it, I don't want to have any doubts in my mind that this will do the job. Please keep in mind that price is a huge factor in my decision. I've seen the price ranges from $400 to $1800. I appreciate your time, and effort. I thank you in advance. Geo.

Quentin 11-20-2012 04:35 AM

Why not read the AR Primer and soak up all the info you can. You're all over the place in that post, need to do more reading for now.

canebrake 11-20-2012 04:41 AM

Get/build a 5.56 AR and put a 3x9 scope on it.

If you are asking this type of question, you're NOT a 1,000 yd shooter! http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/...ps96231498.gif

texaswoodworker 11-20-2012 03:11 PM

If you want something that will make it out to 1000 yards (accurately), it's going to cost you, and you may have to settle for a bolt action. Look into rounds like 30-06 (not the best choice for 1000 yard shots, but it's possible), 338 win mag, .300 win mag, .338 Lapua, .300 WSM, .50 BMG, ect.

.223/5.56 can make it out to 1000 yards, but it's not the best round for the job.

:Note don't pick up something like a 30-06 hunting rifle and expect it to be a 1000 yard shooter. You need a really good, heavy barrel, a really good scope, and a LOT of skill.

If your wanting a guns for SHTF, a 5.56 AR-15 will work just fine. In a SHTF situation, your not going to be making 1000 kill shots, your going to be lying low, trying to say safe and alive. If you do end up needing to protect yourself, it would likely be close quarters combat. If you intend to hunt, most kills would be made between 100-300 yards, which a good AR could do pretty well as long as the game isn't too big.

Now for the AR itself. Look into something like a Bravo Company Manufacturing (BCM), Palmetto State Armory (PSA), S&W, or a Colt. They all make great ARs, and the prices range from $600-$700, to $1500+

AgentTikki 11-20-2012 03:47 PM

I BEG TO DIFFER!

You can go 1000 yards with a .223, but its gonna be a real custom build. just put a upper with 24" match grade barrel and hand load some 90 gr vlds, and get yourself some real good glass.

Honestly tho, skip the custom build. Sit back and ask yourself if you are willing to dedicate yourself to long distance shooting. Its a skill that requires a lot of time and practice. Get yourself a 18 or 20" with a good thick barrel. Get some practice at 200-300 yard (short distance) using cheap ammo. Once you get good enough, step up to 400 to 500 yards (intermediate distance) with match ammo. Then once you master that, go long (500+), and you'll probably have to make some changes, like a longer barrel and better glass.

texaswoodworker 11-20-2012 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AgentTikki (Post 1021363)
I BEG TO DIFFER!

You can go 1000 yards with a .223, but its gonna be a real custom build. just put a upper with 24" match grade barrel and hand load some 90 gr vlds, and get yourself some real good glass.

What kind of grouping would that give you?

TDS92A 11-20-2012 06:52 PM

At the risk of getting the stuffing stomped out of me by some of the folks on here I am going to recommend a nice AK.

I bought mine for just over $600. The ammo is readily available and cheap and you do not have to worry about it getting dirty and jamming at the wrong time.

Since I bought it, I have made some upgrades to it like putting a compensator, a 4 power scope, a set of folding bipods, and an ATI stock kit on it. A total of $188.00 in upgrades.

Choice is yours. :D

P.S. When the SHTF moment happens, your targets are going to be in the 400 yard range and coming fast.



Quote:

Originally Posted by geo110 (Post 1020987)
I am a suburbanite single father that's waiting for all hell to break loose. When it does, it's not going to be pretty. I think we all know what I'm talking about. With that said, I'm looking to stock up with ammo and firepower. At present I own a 40 Baratta semi auto pistol, and a Mosburg 9+ one pistol grip tactical shotgun. I am looking to add a semi automatic rifle. Between all of the flavors available, is an AR 15 sufficient. By that, I mean At 1000 yards I can waste just about anything. I wasn't sure if I should move up from the standard 223/556 to a higher caliber? I realize it and low cost comes into play. I would be looking to have a minimum of six mags holding a minimum of 28 to 30. Also I would like to incorporate a medium grade scope, Possibly a 1 x 30. When it comes down to it, I don't want to have any doubts in my mind that this will do the job. Please keep in mind that price is a huge factor in my decision. I've seen the price ranges from $400 to $1800. I appreciate your time, and effort. I thank you in advance. Geo.


texaswoodworker 11-20-2012 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDS92A (Post 1021609)
At the risk of getting the stuffing stomped out of me by some of the folks on here I am going to recommend a nice AK.

I bought mine for just over $600. The ammo is readily available and cheap and you do not have to worry about it getting dirty and jamming at the wrong time.

Since I bought it, I have made some upgrades to it like putting a compensator, a 4 power scope, a set of folding bipods, and an ATI stock kit on it. A total of $188.00 in upgrades.

Choice is yours. :D

P.S. When the SHTF moment happens, your targets are going to be in the 400 yard range and coming fast.

^ Definetly not a 1000 yard gun. :p

silverado113 11-20-2012 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by texaswoodworker (Post 1021331)
You would have trouble hitting a barn at 1000 yards with .223/5.56. The round is too light, and just doesn't have the power to reach out that far. If you want something that will make it out to 1000 yards (accurately), it's going to cost you, and you may have to settle for a bolt action. Look into rounds like 30-06 (not the best choice for 1000 yard shots, but it's possible), 338 win mag, .300 win mag, .338 Lapua, .300 WSM, .50 BMG, ect.

:Note don't pick up something like a 30-06 hunting rifle and expect it to be a 1000 yard shooter. You need a really good, heavy barrel, a really good scope, and a LOT of skill.

If your wanting a guns for SHTF, a 5.56 AR-15 will work just fine. In a SHTF situation, your not going to be making 1000 kill shots, your going to be lying low, trying to say safe and alive. If you do end up needing to protect yourself, it would likely be close quarters combat. If you intend to hunt, most kills would be made between 100-300 yards, which a good AR could do pretty well as long as the game isn't too big.

Now for the AR itself. Look into something like a Bravo Company Manufacturing (BCM), Palmetto State Armory (PSA), S&W, or a Colt. They all make great ARs, and the prices range from $600-$700, to $1500+

It will and does.

texaswoodworker 11-20-2012 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by silverado113 (Post 1021685)
It will and does.

What? 5.56 making it out to 1000 yards? I never realized it could. I don't think it would be the best round for the job though.

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