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Old 05-30-2011, 07:34 PM   #11
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If you want to build your own, I would choose a different receiver set (upper & lower) to start with instead of buying a name brand "gun" with inferior parts.
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Yes, you can ask for a list of makers that offer quality sets, someone will ablige you.

If you're going back and forth between an AR and a Mini-14, then you need to make up your mind. Mini-14s are good "fun" guns or "plinkers". However, they will never be (even close to) the versatile battle rifle that the AR-15 is.

The Mini-14 is great, but the AR-15 will be everything the Mini is and MUCH MORE.
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Old 05-30-2011, 08:04 PM   #13
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i have heard the mini was more realable

and i would love a list of ar sets i found two by dpms

DPMS AP4 AR-15 Unassembled Carbine Kit 5.56x45mm NATO 16" Barrel with AP4 Upper Assembly, Collapsible Stock Assembly, Lower Receiver Parts Kit Pre-Ban=599$

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DPMS Oracle AR-15 Unassembled Carbine Kit 5.56x45mm NATO 16" Barrel with Oracle Upper Assembly, Collapsible Stock Assembly, Lower Receiver Parts Kit Pre-Ban=539$
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sawtac.com has a 16" LMT upper assembly, minus a BCG, a charge handle, and foregrips regular $485 on sale to $412 BUT if you buy today and use the code MD2011, it will knock the price down to $339.50 plus $7 to ship. That's $140 + dollars off retail.

Then you can get what ever parts you want, and you can buy complete lowers from Aim Surplus for as low as $180, or you can piece things out to fit your tastes and wallet.

Also look at del-ton.com for their rifle kits if you want to go that way.
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the delton i like how i can add better quality items to there kit or have them take out the item compelty if they do not have the one i want
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Del-Ton is a good company, especially for a first rifle. Their on-line pick and choose building program is very good, but their selection is a bit lacking in my opinion.

However their pricing is good and you are getting good quality for your money. With a little bit of knowledge, you can build a good to very good rifle from their site and you have the benefit of them assembling it for you.

Quite a few folks have bought their first rifle from them and as far as we have heard, very few have run into problems with their finished product or problems with customer service.

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sawtac.com has a 16" LMT upper assembly, minus a BCG, a charge handle, and foregrips regular $485 on sale to $412 BUT if you buy today and use the code MD2011, it will knock the price down to $339.50 plus $7 to ship. That's $140 + dollars off retail.

Then you can get what ever parts you want, and you can buy complete lowers from Aim Surplus for as low as $180, or you can piece things out to fit your tastes and wallet.

Also look at del-ton.com for their rifle kits if you want to go that way.
Wow, that's quite a deal on the LMT upper Car54! Sawtac is my go to guy here in Boise and I'm tempted to drive the 5 miles right now and buy that upper!

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whould this work well for my first build Del-Ton, Inc. AR-15 16" Dissipator Rifle Kit

i want a basic one to learn the in and outs
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whould this work well for my first build Del-Ton, Inc. AR-15 16" Dissipator Rifle Kit

i want a basic one to learn the in and outs
I haven't heard real good things about the DelTon dissipater. They use a rifle length gas system on a 16" barrel which doesn't leave a whole lot of room from gas port to muzzle opening. From what I understand this has caused dependability issues. You might want to research this a little further.

If you want a Dissy go midlength GP w/ the FSB at the rifle position.
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so what would be a good kit to learn with i dont whant to buy each part seprate cause i dont know all the parts.

i realy want somthing to just learn with
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