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bogcjg 05-30-2011 07:36 AM

worth it
:confused:71971 - S&W Model M&P 15 Sport Semi Automatic Rifle 5.56mm NATO 16" Barrel 10 Rounds 6 Position Telescopic Stock Black Finish

Car54 05-30-2011 09:49 AM

This is an entry model that attracts those who want an AR but can't or won't pay more money for the more expensive units. S&W out front describes this model substituting different materials or parts that are used in their other models thus keeping the price down.

Some things like a forward assist and ejection port cover aren't included, and I believe the metal in the barrel is different, or they install a different barrel than what comes with the standard units.

mjkeat 05-30-2011 03:44 PM

If youre going to put a few hundred more into higher end S&W you might as well step up to a higher end manufacturer. In todays market you can get all the AR you need in the $800 range.

bogcjg 05-30-2011 05:17 PM

oj thank
i was wondering so if i had plans to buy this and add to it already it would be better to get a gun that has more pf what i am looking for on itt

diggsbakes 05-30-2011 06:10 PM

You're not too far away from me and there is quite a surplus of ARs in our area.

Like Mj said you can get a decent gun for $800 (don't know about all you need, that depends) and if you're willing to spend a few hundred more, then you're in high cotton !

Let me explain why there are better choices in the current AR market. Smith and Wesson is a great firearms manufacturer. One of the best. However, their specialty is handguns, mainly revolvers (some nice 1911s) always has been and (hopefully) always will be.

Their entry into the tactical market (shotguns, pistols and ARs) required them to compete in a market that was already full. They targeted the LE market, so their prices had to be competitive with Bushmaster, DPMS, Colt and Armalite (the later 2 being on the high end of options) as the contracts typically go to the lowest (or lower) bidder. So an amount of quality had to be sacrificed in order to compete.

In addition most of the best options for civilian ARs today ONLY do ARs. They are VERY good at what they do. That is why you can get a higher quality rifle for less $$$ from places such as Spikes, BCM or Del-Ton.

As with every new to AR shooter I say BUILD Y!OUR OWN!! You will learn about your gun and have the ability to fix it yourself.

bogcjg 05-30-2011 06:33 PM

what would be a good platform to start at then for building my own ar-15 i cant realy go over 900 but that was why i was looking at the SW so i could have the money to build it up

Dillinger 05-30-2011 06:47 PM

Difficult to say if it's worth it or not as the link is to a back order rifle with no price. :confused:

The weapon itself isn't bad, but there are several things I would change right out of the gate to it if it hit my hands.

IF you could get it for a good price, say the $500 range, it might be worth it for an entry level gun if you are new to the AR realm.

As a one stop, SHTF, End of Days, I am betting my life on this rifle? Not so much. It needs some components replaced in my limited experience and opinion.

However if you take a look around the forum, you will see some folks who came here with the same thinking in mind, and after asking a few questions, decided to build their own rifles and were much happier with the results.

If you have any questions, these folks here are more than ready to help you make good decisions, regardless of the size of your wallet.


bogcjg 05-30-2011 07:24 PM

sorry the [rice they want is
585.00$ and this would be my first AR

Dillinger 05-30-2011 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by bogcjg (Post 514585)
585.00$ and this would be my first AR

Is it local to you, or do you need to pay for shipping, tax and a dealer transfer??

bogcjg 05-30-2011 07:30 PM

i would have to ship to my lovation
i probaly will not buy it from there just want to new what would be a good price platform to start building my own gun

or would this be better Ruger Mini-14 Semi Automatic .223 Remington 16.12" Barrel 20 Rounds Black Synthetic Collapsible ATI Stock
685 plush shipping AND FEES

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