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Old 04-30-2014, 11:12 PM   #1
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Disclaimer*-I'm sure the topic has been discussed ad-nauseum but the forum search provided nothing and I didn't see the topic on the first 3 pages in, so here goes. Please feel free to link me to a discussion thread on the subject and delete this thread.

Is shooting Wolf 5.56 consistently through an AR-15 platform ok? I watched a video where the guy said steel is about 50% harder than brass, so "theoretically" expect 50% more wear on internals.

Accuracy of surplus ammo aside, how hard on the AR-15 internals is Wolf? Or Brown Bear/Silver Bear? The guy in the video said that the money saved from buying steel ammo will buy you a new barrel (which will burn out faster) and another box of 1000 rounds (or another barrel on top of the other one .)

How do you personally feel about putting steel cased ammo through your AR-15, and how does it affect your rifle?

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As long as your barrel is chambered for 5.56, shooting Wolf ammo is not a problem. Most of the Wolf I have seen is in the .223 flavor, but I shoot that in my ARs too.

Steel cases do not expand as much as brass, so some gas leaks, so maybe after a couple hundred 1k cases of ammo you could have a problem. Not likely to happen to me in my lifetime with today's ammo prices.

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As long as your barrel is chambered for 5.56, shooting Wolf ammo is not a problem. Most of the Wolf I have seen is in the .223 flavor, but I shoot that in my ARs too.

Steel cases do not expand as much as brass, so some gas leaks, so maybe after a couple hundred 1k cases of ammo you could have a problem. Not likely to happen to me in my lifetime with today's ammo prices.
What kind of problems would arise from gas leaks?
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Excessive fouling and potential malfunctions.

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What kind of problems would arise from gas leaks?
As long as you clean your gun at decent intervals, probably very little.

If the steel is lacqured, the lacquer can gunk up the chamber, again a proper cleaning will prevent this.

Also, you could experience some more carbon build up in the chamber from steel versus brass, but cleaning solves this.

I like to shoot, I have not taken up reloading, steel case ammo costs less. The benefit of less cost outweighs the possible steel case ammo problems to me.

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Personally, I think a lot of the Russian stuff is a decent option for the non-reloader. I've shot quite a bit of the zinc-plated Silver Bear, and it's accurate and reliable. The Silver Bear 62gr soft point/JHP is also a versatile bullet that can perform well for defense, range work, or varminting.

At times there can be feed issues with many of these rounds. They have a coating that (once things heat up after a few rounds) can lead to the cases having a sticky exterior.

The irony when it comes to Russian ammo, is that many cheap guns will struggle with it...yet the owners of such guns are of course among those who are most determined to make it work. that makes perfect sense. And many of the folks who have milpec/M16 BCG ARs that can digest it properly, prefer not to shoot it.

My guns tend to shoot Silver Bear well, and I shoot a bit of it. But I still mostly shoot brass. I consider the Russian SB to be a nice affordable contingecy plan. Not perfect, but an affordable and versatile option.

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Personally, I think a lot of the Russian stuff is a decent option for the non-reloader. I've shot quite a bit of the zinc-plated Silver Bear, and it's accurate and reliable. The Silver Bear 62gr soft point/JHP is also a versatile bullet that can perform well for defense, range work, or varminting.

At times there can be feed issues with many of these rounds. They have a coating that (once things heat up after a few rounds) can lead to the cases having a sticky exterior.

The irony when it comes to Russian ammo, is that many cheap guns will struggle with it...yet the owners of such guns are of course among those who are most determined to make it work. that makes perfect sense. And many of the folks who have milpec/M16 BCG ARs that can digest it properly, prefer not to shoot it.

My guns tend to shoot Silver Bear well, and I shoot a bit of it. But I still mostly shoot brass. I consider the Russian SB to be a nice affordable contingecy plan. Not perfect, but an affordable and versatile option.
Silver Bear seems to navigate around the lacquer problem from what I've read, since it's not lacquer coated Some people say the lacquer coating problem is over-hyped and other will not shoot the stuff because of it.
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well here's my take on steel ammo. some guns seem to shoot it just fine and some don't. all you can do is try some out and see how it works out for you.

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well here's my take on steel ammo. some guns seem to shoot it just fine and some don't. all you can do is try some out and see how it works out for you.
What about the supposed extra wear and tear on the rifle? Any legitimacy to that?
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What about the supposed extra wear and tear on the rifle? Any legitimacy to that?
honestly, IMO, i think it would depend on lots of factors. a lot of people shoot steel cased ammo with no problems.

i think most people sho do use large quantities of steel cased ammo are not looking for the Nth degree in accuracy to begin with.

but also consider this, Hornady in just the last couple of years is now offering match grade steel cased ammo is several calibers for competition shooting.
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