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Old 08-18-2014, 01:04 AM   #1
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I don't mind spending good money on anything as long as I get good value..
I've been looking at SureFire lights and they are SO much more than other lights...

Over $300 for a light? They literally have a weapon light on their site listed for $595!!!!! (The M620V)

What am I getting over the others..?

For example, I'm comparing the SureFire M300 mini scout to the InForce WML and I can't see what's so much better about it...

They have almost identical specs when it comes to lumens, battery life, weight, etc.

So what's better?

I'm guessing the SureFire is just built stronger to take more abuse?

Because it's a metal housing?

A stream light LTR-1 has the same specs with a metal housing and is 1/3 the price?

I don't get it.
What am I paying for?

If I can be convinced it's a $300+ light then I'll gladly buy one..




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I'll post just to hear the comparisons as I would like to make an informed decision also.

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Well, this one is cheap, from China, some folks like it, a few hate it. I have a couple and was impressed- for a pocket light, it will throw a beam about 200 meters.

It is not a Surefire, but it IS $14.99 plus shipping.

http://www.amazon.com/Ultrafire-WF-502B-Flashlight-Batteries-Charger/dp/B00EOJKHH4/ref=pd_sbs_misc_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1E2G95XC9HMRDF4KZ 4NG

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the pricier models combine the light with a laser designator and infra red function for nightvision goggles.

if your going to put a light on a firearm for serious defensive use or police work surefire is it.

the difference isnt just raw lumens. where i shoot there are a lot of mall ninja types that run cheap lights in the daytime. ive seen a few of them self destruct on recoil with the owner cursing. i find it amusing.

surefire weapon lights arent going to self destruct from muzzle blast.

all of them integrate remote switch capability and solid quick detach mounting systems.

once you figure all that in the price tag isnt too bad.

i keep a light handy at the bed but its for off hand use.

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the pricier models combine the light with a laser designator and infra red function for nightvision goggles.

if your going to put a light on a firearm for serious defensive use or police work surefire is it.

the difference isnt just raw lumens. where i shoot there are a lot of mall ninja types that run cheap lights in the daytime. ive seen a few of them self destruct on recoil with the owner cursing. i find it amusing.

surefire weapon lights arent going to self destruct from muzzle blast.

all of them integrate remote switch capability and solid quick detach mounting systems.

once you figure all that in the price tag isnt too bad.

i keep a light handy at the bed but its for off hand use.
i don't doubt there are some poorly built models out there, but I know from experience that models like the stream light TLR-1 and the InForce WML are nearly identical in specs and can truly take a beating.
I've seen both of those lights on weapons that have had thousands and thousands or rounds through them…

and both the TLR-1 and the InForce WML are 1/3 the price of the SureFires…

using that example, I don't see why the SureFire is 3x the price..

the others have just as good of a mounting system, same battery life and similar lumens..

idk…

im admitting that i don't know much when it comes to this topic,…

someone school me on why these SureFires are so much better than these other models..
idk, maybe they aren't…i wouldn't know

but if they truly are 3x the $ AND 3x the VALUE then i will gladly buy one and be proud to be rocking the best lights on the market...
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I have had great luck with Fenix brand of flashlights. There TK series is considered there heavy duty flashlights (TK=TANK). I have 11+ different lights from the Fenix line and have never had one go bad.

My TK 22 has 500 plus rounds on my AR and never a glitch.

Nice thing is they are a 1/3 or less of the price of Surefire. Like any other brand you will have some die hard Surefire supporters, but for the price and track record I have had with the Fenix brands I am not changing anytime soon.

A really good source for flashlights is Candlepower Forums. I have unfortunately have become a flashlight nerd because of that forum, and keep buying different flashlights I dont need!!

Good luck!

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I Ultrafire and Nebo lights on my guns. When you buy an off brand light it needs to have a sturdy one piece aluminum housing, a Cree bulb and a sturdy switch. If you buy lights on eBay look for experienced vendors. I have another light I have not mounted on a shotgun, it is just labeled Lex-516. All of the lights I have mentioned have been in use for 3 to 4 years.

This is a rail mount light that would provide the owner with decent service. The lights are warranted and the Asian vendors have a US address so returns are not a pain. Priced at $15.99
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WF-501B-1000-Lumen-CREE-LED-Tactical-Flashlight-Torch-Pressure-Switch-Mount-/161373697203?pt=US_Flashlights&hash=item25929f34b3

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This is a handy mount to put a flashlight on any shotgun or scoped rifle.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shotgun-Barrel-Flashlight-Mount-for-1-flashlights-Benelli-Mossberg-Remington-/261514134212?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item3ce375 02c4

I use these mounts for permanent mounting on a shotgun. No need for a pressure switch, just tap a tail mounted switch with your thumb.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Inch-Scope-Laser-Flashlight-Mount-Dual-Ring-Shotgun-Rifle-Side-Rail-25mm-/221330263562?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33884f ce0a

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IME, most companies which price themselves
way above competition either have an edge,
or aren't in business long.

Leupold, Nikon, Zeiss, Wenger, Victorinox,
Milwaukee, FN,and Surefire; to name a few,
are products designed with constant heavy
use in mind.
They have a well-proven quality product, for
which you pay a premium. They save you time
and money on the back end, which usually more
than compensates for their initial high price-tag.

You may never recoup that value, though, OP.

Case in point:

I recently comparison shopped Nikon cameras
VS many cheaper brands. I paid one seventh as
much for a camera which will never see the constant
daily usage and exacting professional demands as the clearly
better Nikon unit could provide. So why waste the
money buying way too much camera?

Surefires aren't for everybody . . .

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I'd buy SureFire M300 if i'm in the military or war zones as it will be abused.
But since i'm not, i'm quite happy with my Inforce WML HSP.
Also i don't like wire tangles around my rail.
But i always read and hear good reviews about SureFire lights.

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