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09-18-2009, 09:45 PM | #1 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: everywhere Posts: 9,640 | Why build???
I must be missing something, but went to the local show, saw all the parts I needed to do a complete build, did the math, and saw complete Colt ARs cheaper.
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09-18-2009, 09:53 PM | #2 | Call Me Doug Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: It's because I actually HAVE those skills! Posts: 21,258 |
Wasn't always the case. You used to be able to build an AR for less than $700, complete.
And you would have working knowledge of the platform. Something a lot of people don't have, and never care to acquire, because they just slap down their plastic and call it a day.
Then, if they have problems, they bitch and moan about the manufacturer instead of knowing what to do to fix the problem...
JD __________________ "as for my Sword & Spear we will serve the throne, but NEVER that man who sits upon it" - Achilles - Warrior of Warriors
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Dillinger didn't have to let me try Cammenga Mags before I bought them; but he is a man of great character & a man who's word to me now is a good as gold. If he recommends it I know its good stuff.
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09-18-2009, 09:56 PM | #3 | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,158 |
I'll be honest BB and admit I know sh1t about ARs even though I have one. Up until 3 months ago, all I had was a bunch of handguns and I figured an EBR made sense. I have quite a few soldier buddies that are seriously into the subject and here's what they told me about why build - you get exactly what you want and nothing you don't.
Makes sense; however, I didn't really know what I wanted as I'm a total newb with EBRs. I did ask what some essential features are and I found a rifle that met my needs and was reasonably cheap.
All I wanted was a flattop carbine with chrome lined barrel and close to real mil-spec - and that's what I got. Mines a Rock River upper on a C3 Defense billet lower with a Rock River parts kit and 6 position stock. I picked up a detachable carry handle/sight, optics (an ACOG) and a few Magpul Pmags... |
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09-18-2009, 10:19 PM | #4 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Desert Southwest, Nevada Posts: 381 |
A while back you could assemble one the way you wanted with a number of vendors supplying parts cheaper. AUR weapons were costing a bit more and were "vanilla" compared to what you could add to customize yours. Then SHTF and prices went thru the roof.
I just completed my assembly. Found it cheaper to buy a complete kit from RRA then to buy all individual parts/pieces and pay shipping. I picked up a lower and did the assembly. Pricewise, it came out at $758, meh, a little less then what I could now buy a flattop for. But, with thr RRA stuff, I got what I wanted.
It all comes down to what you want and what you want to spend............markerdown __________________ USAF, Retired .. "From My Cold Dead Hands!"
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09-18-2009, 10:40 PM | #5 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: everywhere Posts: 9,640 |
I'm intimately familiar with the platform, I just for the life of me couldn't figure out why a stripped lower was so freakin expensive, even now. |
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09-18-2009, 11:58 PM | #6 | Winners!!! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bennignton, VT Posts: 4,446 |
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I'm intimately familiar with the platform
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Yeah, unfortunately I've seen the video.  Now I want to gouge out my brain.  |
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09-19-2009, 12:10 AM | #7 | Supporting Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 4,754 |
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Originally Posted by Benning Boy
I'm intimately familiar with the platform, I just for the life of me couldn't figure out why a stripped lower was so freakin expensive, even now.
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I did my build because the effin state of CA has all the ARs on a ban list. But I can buy a lower from an off list manufacturer, like double star, and then build out with any parts I want. How stupid is that!!! |
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09-19-2009, 01:19 AM | #8 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: everywhere Posts: 9,640 |
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Yeah, unfortunately I've seen the video.  Now I want to gouge out my brain. 
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I'm not joking when I say we were required to keep it in the sleeping bag with us.
Break Free and an M203 tube is indistiguishable from the real thing.   |
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09-19-2009, 01:47 AM | #9 | mmmmm...... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Maiden, NC Posts: 9,583 |
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I'm not joking when I say we were required to keep it in the sleeping bag with us.
Break Free and an M203 tube is indistiguishable from the real thing.  
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We kept them in our bags too. Did you name yours?
With prices and everything the way they are now the only reason I would build one is because I wanted to. I would have exactly what I wanted and I would have the satisfaction of putting it together myself. __________________ If the pain is lacking so is the discipline...
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09-19-2009, 02:10 AM | #10 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 426 |
Why build?
It's like asking why build a big block Chevy......why build an off road machine....why build a faster car....why build the ultimate lawn mower.....why build, well....anything!
Because anybody can buy an AR. It means so much more when you can say, I BUILT this rifle. Sleeping with something allows you to know about it but building something lets you know ALL about it. You handled every single piece. At that point, you are one with your rifle. You are it's creator. It is a product of you.
I know when I have a super tight group at a few hundred meters, it is all me. I built the rifle, I assembled the ammunition, and I shot those rounds into the 10 ring or better. I guess it boils down to a matter of craftsmanship and pride. __________________ "Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American...(T)he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people." (Tench Coxe, Freeman's Journal, 20 Feb 1778) |
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